It is too bad that muslins are being mistreated in China, but at least they're not being bombarded to death on imperial wars to steal their oil, like it is being done by western countries. BBC should note this.
China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment
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Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it’s genuine, it might also be smuggled in? Also, cell phones tend to work anyway there’s cell coverage.
Cellphones are in prisons everywhere. Visitors and inmates stow them up their asses and they can be bought inside. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zngpz4/prison-phones-that...
The management of Chinese prisons is not as chaotic as in the United States.
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#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
My suggestion is that you shouldn't bother. The Chinese people would not believe the Western media narrative on Xinjiang (XJ), which also doesn't really have credible sources if look deeper into their "facts" [0]. And it is increasingly clear that the XJ narrative is a US-backed propaganda rather than factual reporting [1]. Most of us would consider the western people being brainwashed into believing whatever the med…
Throwaway because yeah. What's fun is your account is four years old and you have three posts, all of which have a pro-China bias. Why are you ignoring the human rights atrocities happening in China, and why are you turfing for Xi's brutal government?
Well I'm Chinese and have positive personal experiences in China, so I'm pro-China.
If you're going to base your questions on the premises that I do not agree with, and do not give your reasonings, then there is no way to engage in productive conversation.
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#64I've been wondering how I could bring this up with the mainland Chinese I know. It's particularly difficult, because for some of them I'm in a supervisory/managerial role, but I don't want to put pressure on them, which would raise all sort of other ethical dilemmas and would likely not be effective. Anyone else can share experiences?
My suggestion is that you shouldn't bother. The Chinese people would not believe the Western media narrative on Xinjiang (XJ), which also doesn't really have credible sources if look deeper into their "facts" [0]. And it is increasingly clear that the XJ narrative is a US-backed propaganda rather than factual reporting [1]. Most of us would consider the western people being brainwashed into believing whatever the med…
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#65How does one compile this and other evidence to present to expatriate Mainlanders? Is it even worth it?
You can use GitHub since it’s one of the few platforms (if not the only) that won’t be blocked in China and Microsoft is very unlikely to censor your repository.
WeChat and other social media will of course shadowban messages containing a link to your repo (assuming it become popular enough to be noticed) but you can find creative ways to bypass the blacklisting (e.g. share link in a picture, with spaces in the link, forking the repo and sharing the forked one, etc.)
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#66As an American, as terrible as the Chinese actions against the Uighurs in Xinjiang are I still feel we should prioritize ending our nearly twenty year long war in neighboring Afghanistan.
We've created millions of refugees, caused over a hundred thousand people to die, and committed numerous human rights violations. Yet the press coverage it gets mostly centers around how we dropped the "mother of all bombs" on them or how disgusting it is to hold peace talks with the Taliban in September.
And for all the calls of "whataboutism" this is likely to raise, if we are unable to fix our own problems our attempts to fix China's are unlikely to benefit anyone.
Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
Throwaway because yeah. What's fun is your account is four years old and you have three posts, all of which have a pro-China bias. Why are you ignoring the human rights atrocities happening in China, and why are you turfing for Xi's brutal government?
Well I'm Chinese and have positive personal experiences in China, so I'm pro-China. If you're going to base your questions on the premises that I do not agree with, and do not give your reasonings, then there is no way to engage in productive conversation.
Tip: you don't need to be pro-CCP to be pro-China.
I'm pro-my country? Yes. I'm pro-my country's government? Absolutely not.
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From a moral perspective, that's maybe one thing. From a legal it might be another - you might be construed as discriminating against them or harassing them based on their ethnicity, which is in fact valid; if they weren't chinese you wouldn't be discussing it with them. So in that sense I really would think carefully. In fact, don't. If they bring it up themselves, for or against that slightly changes things but fra…
What does it have to do with ethnicity? He said "mainland Chinese", which is a form of citizenship. I think that all sides would agree that a good fraction of people from Taiwan are ethnically Chinese. As far as I know, citizenship is not a protected class (outside of certain treaties). As for it being a good idea... nope. I wouldn't put myself in a situation where the Chinese government calls my employer and politel…
> As far as I know, citizenship is not a protected class
Wouldn't citizenship fall under "national origin"?
Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment
#69As an American, as terrible as the Chinese actions against the Uighurs in Xinjiang are I still feel we should prioritize ending our nearly twenty year long war in neighboring Afghanistan. We've created millions of refugees, caused over a hundred thousand people to die, and committed numerous human rights violations. Yet the press coverage it gets mostly centers around how we dropped the "mother of all bombs" on them…
> As an American, as terrible as the Chinese actions against the Uighurs in Xinjiang are I still feel we should prioritize ending our nearly twenty year long war in neighboring Afghanistan.
I think it's a false choice, because there is nothing a citizen one can do for either that inhibits doing the other; they are complementary, rather than conflicting, goals.
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#70I've been wondering how I could bring this up with the mainland Chinese I know. It's particularly difficult, because for some of them I'm in a supervisory/managerial role, but I don't want to put pressure on them, which would raise all sort of other ethical dilemmas and would likely not be effective. Anyone else can share experiences?
How can you not see how grossly inappropriate it is to push politics in the workplace?