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UC Berkeley boosts Latino admissions by 40% in one year

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Re: UC Berkeley boosts Latino admissions by 40% in one year

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Post by fxtentacle »

rbecker wrote: post #3

Since the press release didn't bother to, lets compare UC Berkeley's (UCB) admissions [1] to California's demographics (CAL) for 2018 [2], to see how much work on diversity they have left to do: UCB % CAL % UCB/CAL Black 5.04 5.51 0.92 American Indian 0.44 0.35 1.27 Latino 28.93 39.29 0.74 Pacific Islander 0.18 0.36 0.49 Asian 42.43 14.52 2.92 White 18.53 36.64 0.51 That's odd. The press release doesn't mention them…

I suppose that might due to ideology, similar to how the 2nd and 3rd wave of feminism see things differently.

Do you want to ensure a fair future by enforcing equal treatment now? Or do you want to rectify past wrongs by temporarily discriminating in the opposite direction?

If the current student body was 90% white, then you'd need a very low white admission rate to get it down to 36% like the CA average.

Re: UC Berkeley boosts Latino admissions by 40% in one year

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Post by yostrovs »

fxtentacle wrote: post #11
rbecker wrote: post #3

Since the press release didn't bother to, lets compare UC Berkeley's (UCB) admissions [1] to California's demographics (CAL) for 2018 [2], to see how much work on diversity they have left to do: UCB % CAL % UCB/CAL Black 5.04 5.51 0.92 American Indian 0.44 0.35 1.27 Latino 28.93 39.29 0.74 Pacific Islander 0.18 0.36 0.49 Asian 42.43 14.52 2.92 White 18.53 36.64 0.51 That's odd. The press release doesn't mention them…

I suppose that might due to ideology, similar to how the 2nd and 3rd wave of feminism see things differently. Do you want to ensure a fair future by enforcing equal treatment now? Or do you want to rectify past wrongs by temporarily discriminating in the opposite direction? If the current student body was 90% white, then you'd need a very low white admission rate to get it down to 36% like the CA average.

It depends who you ask your questions. If it's a poor white guy with family who came here from Albania, maybe he shouldn't care about "past wrongs"?

Re: UC Berkeley boosts Latino admissions by 40% in one year

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Post by raxxorrax »

fxtentacle wrote: post #11
rbecker wrote: post #3

Since the press release didn't bother to, lets compare UC Berkeley's (UCB) admissions [1] to California's demographics (CAL) for 2018 [2], to see how much work on diversity they have left to do: UCB % CAL % UCB/CAL Black 5.04 5.51 0.92 American Indian 0.44 0.35 1.27 Latino 28.93 39.29 0.74 Pacific Islander 0.18 0.36 0.49 Asian 42.43 14.52 2.92 White 18.53 36.64 0.51 That's odd. The press release doesn't mention them…

I suppose that might due to ideology, similar to how the 2nd and 3rd wave of feminism see things differently. Do you want to ensure a fair future by enforcing equal treatment now? Or do you want to rectify past wrongs by temporarily discriminating in the opposite direction? If the current student body was 90% white, then you'd need a very low white admission rate to get it down to 36% like the CA average.

Consequentialism on the back of young adults is a crime in my opinion. It tries but fails to justify discrimination. The reason might be different compared to other authoritarian regimes, but the sense of superiority is exactly the same.

Re: UC Berkeley boosts Latino admissions by 40% in one year

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Post by eindiran »

pmiller2 wrote: post #10
wbraun wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UC system has a common application and students rarely apply to only one school. The impacts of any outreach effort should be seen across the entire UC system and not just Berkeley. Based on the data for the entire UC system, you can see that is not the case https://www.ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-plannin... What has changed though is that UCB has a new admissions dean.

> The impacts of any outreach effort should be seen across the entire UC system and not just Berkeley. You say this as if I'm just supposed to accept it, but I don't believe it. UCB, along with UCLA, are the top tier of the UC system. I don't think it's a big stretch to think that someone who might be applying to UCB wouldn't be applying to UCSD. I'm not coming straight out and saying you're wrong here, but I am sayi…

Anecdotally, I applied to only 2 UCs: Berkeley and UCSD. Several of my friends that applied to (and some of whom who attended) Berkeley and UCLA also applied to UCSD, UCSC, or UCSB.

Re: UC Berkeley boosts Latino admissions by 40% in one year

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Post by [deleted] »

fxtentacle wrote: post #11
rbecker wrote: post #3

Since the press release didn't bother to, lets compare UC Berkeley's (UCB) admissions [1] to California's demographics (CAL) for 2018 [2], to see how much work on diversity they have left to do: UCB % CAL % UCB/CAL Black 5.04 5.51 0.92 American Indian 0.44 0.35 1.27 Latino 28.93 39.29 0.74 Pacific Islander 0.18 0.36 0.49 Asian 42.43 14.52 2.92 White 18.53 36.64 0.51 That's odd. The press release doesn't mention them…

I suppose that might due to ideology, similar to how the 2nd and 3rd wave of feminism see things differently. Do you want to ensure a fair future by enforcing equal treatment now? Or do you want to rectify past wrongs by temporarily discriminating in the opposite direction? If the current student body was 90% white, then you'd need a very low white admission rate to get it down to 36% like the CA average.

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