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Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment

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Post by beenBoutIT » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 5:53 AM UTC

amscanne wrote: post #8

chloerei wrote: post #6

The CCP imprisoned him and provided him a cell phone and internet so that he can communicate with the outside world... Well, if that also convinces you that I have nothing to say. This kind of propaganda from the West is something China cannot learn.

If it’s genuine, it might also be smuggled in? Also, cell phones tend to work anyway there’s cell coverage.

Cellphones are in prisons everywhere. Visitors and inmates stow them up their asses and they can be bought inside.

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zngpz4/prison-phones-that...

Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment

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Post by lostlogin » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:05 AM UTC

mkbkn wrote: post #5

Downvote me for this - If you're using China-made products, you're responsible for the bugger balls of CCP, unethical/illegal selling of human organs and what not. They are no different from a radical terrorist organization.

> If you're using China-made products, you're responsible

What sort of limits do you have to this statement? You're posting this on a forum. Have you checked the country of origin of the servers and components used by the telecoms for their equipment between you and those servers?

Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment

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Post by senectus1 » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:10 AM UTC

mkbkn wrote: post #5

Downvote me for this - If you're using China-made products, you're responsible for the bugger balls of CCP, unethical/illegal selling of human organs and what not. They are no different from a radical terrorist organization.

Are you going to stop using the internet just because a lot of your data goes through china?

Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment

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Post by beenBoutIT » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:11 AM UTC

That loudspeaker broadcasting fun "facts" is an interesting way to reeducate captives. IIRC, the consensus among most Western experts is that this type of brainwashing isn't effective.

Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment

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Post by armini » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:17 AM UTC

If you're interested in this topic, I strongly suggest you all read The China Crisis By: James R. Gorrie It provides amazing insight into what's happening in the region & what we can expect to see over the coming years.

Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment

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Post by cycomanic » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:23 AM UTC

lostlogin wrote: post #12

mkbkn wrote: post #5

Downvote me for this - If you're using China-made products, you're responsible for the bugger balls of CCP, unethical/illegal selling of human organs and what not. They are no different from a radical terrorist organization.

> If you're using China-made products, you're responsible What sort of limits do you have to this statement? You're posting this on a forum. Have you checked the country of origin of the servers and components used by the telecoms for their equipment between you and those servers?

That's a straw man though. Nobody said you need to be perfect, however there are enough products where we know exactly where they made and still ignore the human rights violations, maybe that's a good start.

Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment

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Post by lostmsu » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:23 AM UTC

senectus1 wrote: post #13

mkbkn wrote: post #5

Downvote me for this - If you're using China-made products, you're responsible for the bugger balls of CCP, unethical/illegal selling of human organs and what not. They are no different from a radical terrorist organization.

Are you going to stop using the internet just because a lot of your data goes through china?

It probably does not though.

Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment

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Post by throwaway_pdp09 » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:25 AM UTC

There's more than enough evidence now with or without this so I'll put it simply.

Those who defend this abuse of an ethnic group are as complicit as the nazis of last century.

Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment

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Post by cycomanic » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:26 AM UTC

I've been wondering how I could bring this up with the mainland Chinese I know. It's particularly difficult, because for some of them I'm in a supervisory/managerial role, but I don't want to put pressure on them, which would raise all sort of other ethical dilemmas and would likely not be effective. Anyone else can share experiences?

Re: China Uighurs: A model's video gives a rare glimpse inside internment

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Post by dangus » Wed, Aug 05, 2020, 6:28 AM UTC

cycomanic wrote: post #19

I've been wondering how I could bring this up with the mainland Chinese I know. It's particularly difficult, because for some of them I'm in a supervisory/managerial role, but I don't want to put pressure on them, which would raise all sort of other ethical dilemmas and would likely not be effective. Anyone else can share experiences?

You should not.