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Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Post by dylan604 »

blihp wrote: post #82
w0mbat wrote: post #50

This guy had such a sweet deal at Google originally, it staggers me that he'd go to these lengths to steal even more. He was getting a massive salarY, bonuses in the millions, and he had persuaded Google to pay him even more money through a side-hustle company of his while remaining an employee. Then he quits and steals their stuff.

For some people, it isn't ever about having enough. It's always about having more. It also might not have been entirely about the money: he could have craved recognition, more power or who knows what else.

Next, you'll hear Levandowski 2024. Got to always be moving up

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Post by rockinghigh »

hannasanarion wrote: post #41

Why is the government throwing people in jail for leaking trade secrets? Trade secrets aren't supposed to have government protection, that's the entire point: they're risky. If you want a monopoly on your technology, you're supposed to file a patent. Trade secrets were invented as a riskier way to extend your monopoly by giving up government protection. If the government is going to give trade secrets the same protec…

Theft of trade secrets became illegal with the Economic Espionage Act of 1996.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Espionage_Act_of_1996

18 U.S. Code § 1832. Theft of trade secrets https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1832

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Post by xoxoy »

bonoboTP wrote: post #140

An honest and naive question from someone outside industry: where is the line between stealing trade secrets and taking your experience and expertise developed at another company to a new company. Where does a lesson learned during project X become taking the know-how of the company which it developed during project X? Because obviously the next company pays you so much because they see in your CV that you gained exp…

it wasn’t ambiguous at all. he downloaded related files directly to a personal hard drive when he left.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Post by bonoboTP »

xoxoy wrote: post #143
bonoboTP wrote: post #140

An honest and naive question from someone outside industry: where is the line between stealing trade secrets and taking your experience and expertise developed at another company to a new company. Where does a lesson learned during project X become taking the know-how of the company which it developed during project X? Because obviously the next company pays you so much because they see in your CV that you gained exp…

it wasn’t ambiguous at all. he downloaded related files directly to a personal hard drive when he left.

I'm asking in general, beyond this case.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Post by cgb223 »

bduerst wrote: post #129
w0mbat wrote: post #50

This guy had such a sweet deal at Google originally, it staggers me that he'd go to these lengths to steal even more. He was getting a massive salarY, bonuses in the millions, and he had persuaded Google to pay him even more money through a side-hustle company of his while remaining an employee. Then he quits and steals their stuff.

>bonuses in the millions Hundreds of millions. As part of breaching his employment agreement by stealing trade secrets, Levandowski had to pay back one of his bonuses, which was $120 million . I mean, part of paying this type of comp is to retain talent. How much more should Google have paid to retain him? Or was this even preventable?

God what kind of knowledge / training do I need to get that level of bonus?

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Post by rexpop »

cgb223 wrote: post #146
bduerst wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>bonuses in the millions Hundreds of millions. As part of breaching his employment agreement by stealing trade secrets, Levandowski had to pay back one of his bonuses, which was $120 million . I mean, part of paying this type of comp is to retain talent. How much more should Google have paid to retain him? Or was this even preventable?

God what kind of knowledge / training do I need to get that level of bonus?

You need serendipity.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Post by teej »

cgb223 wrote: post #146
bduerst wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>bonuses in the millions Hundreds of millions. As part of breaching his employment agreement by stealing trade secrets, Levandowski had to pay back one of his bonuses, which was $120 million . I mean, part of paying this type of comp is to retain talent. How much more should Google have paid to retain him? Or was this even preventable?

God what kind of knowledge / training do I need to get that level of bonus?

This is the Google version of winning the lottery. Right place, right skills, right time.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Post by xoxoy »

bonoboTP wrote: post #145
xoxoy wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it wasn’t ambiguous at all. he downloaded related files directly to a personal hard drive when he left.

I'm asking in general, beyond this case.

if you haven’t stolen actual files or documents with you, then it’d be a very tough case
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