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Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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He was so brazen in using identical schematic and suppliers. It amazing to think all this is a result of the supplier getting confused from having two clients with identical schematics and accidently cc'ing the wrong engineers.

You mean "confused." I think the supplier knew exactly what was happening and decided to let the cat out of the bag.

I'd agree with you, if I hadn't worked adjacent to the financial industry for a bit. There are a lot of companies with liberty in the name (not even just US based), and I've mixed some up, even on technical issues.

Obviously the "name" isn't the issue, or maybe it is, it's possible they worked with this person in the past, and it never occurred to them to check the current employer, because it usually doesn't change that much, but once you end up working with customers in an emergent industry (separate experience in analytics, yes the past two decades is emergent), you'll find you have a customer who after a few quarters is on to a new job, but still your customer!

There are so many ways for these wires to get crossed, I'll stick to Hanlon's razor, but modify it to not be about malice, but to be about confusion:

Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by confusion.

And if there's any chance I get something named after me, since this pattern is cute, let's call Clover's razor, any aphorism that takes on the form "Never attribute to X that which can adequately be explained by Y."

:)

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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It seems inconsistent to punish technologists like Levandowski when we don't punish bankers, CEOs, and polluters with the the same enthusiasm.

If it makes you feel any better, we don't punish any of these people with the enthusiasm that punish teenagers on the South Side of Chicago. At least Levandowski gets a sympathetic cheering section.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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How many other criminals can avoid jail time right now due to the Covid threat?

Trump's former lawyer-fixer Michael Cohen: https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/23/politics/michael-cohen-will-b...

Wow, downvotes. Just stating a fact in response to the question.

(would be nice if someone commented as to why the downvotes).

EDIT: More downvotes, I considered deleting this to stop them, but that wouldn't contribute to the discussion.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Why do we have laws for trade secrets? Seems like that lowers wages and decreases innovation. Really bad for majority of people. I understand they are fantastic for minority of people who are shareholders, but are there contrarians who think we should do away with legal protections for them?

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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How many other criminals can avoid jail time right now due to the Covid threat?

Quite a few. Levandowski is in California, where they're making a pretty big effort to get nonviolent criminals out of the prison system.

It blows my mind that there are protestors at San Quentin agitating for prisoners to be released into the public when the prison is one of the biggest cohorts of COVID in the entire region.

They literally let people walk out of prison and get on a public bus, after spendings months in close quarters amidst the worst outbreak in the Bay Area.

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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Much more interesting to me is that the article says "he will not need to report until threat of COVID-19 pandemic has passed." and "With no end to the COVID-19 pandemic in sight, it is possible that Levandowski’s latest lawsuit will be resolved before he even reports to jail."

Who said money can’t literally buy a get out of jail card?

Re: Levandowski sentenced to 18 months in prison as new lawsuit against Uber filed

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It seems inconsistent to punish technologists like Levandowski when we don't punish bankers, CEOs, and polluters with the the same enthusiasm.

> It seems inconsistent to punish technologists like Levandowski when we don't punish bankers, CEOs, and polluters with the the same enthusiasm.

Levandowski was cofounder and CEO of Otto, and is being punished directly for how he got there, and later (until charged) cofounder and CEO at Pronto.ai.

So, I'd say we charge CEOs with exactly the enthusiasm we charge Levandowski.

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