I bought a 2012 iMac with 8GB of memory as the baseline. We’re more than halfway through 2020 and Apple is telling us 8GB is still just fine for a >$2000 computer?
Given their crazy RAM price markups, I prefer to have this option so that I can buy my own RAM from another source.
27-inch iMac gets a major update
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> So before the lower-end one had 64GB? No, the lower end ones came with "Fusion Drive", that was 32-128 GB of SSD merged with a 1TB HDD presented as a single disk. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_Drive
The audacity they had selling spinning drives for personal computing in 2020.
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#513The one thing I keep missing on my 5k iMac is some form of video-in. Would be great if I could connect my MB Pro to it and use the iMac as a display. Perhaps even in a window and all mouse and keyboard events to the window get passed to the connected MacBook.
You know, there are a few key features about macs that have made them much better computers. Target disk mode. Target display mode. Boot from an external drive using option. Boot from the network. And you know the "decision makers" don't understand how much nicer it makes the computers to administer. (understand in the sense they would defend them for real in a feature-cutting meeting) Instead we get dongles. sigh.
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I used to build gaming PCs for myself and friends, salvage laptops from parts picked up at auction, etc. But I'm no longer interested in doing that. I'd much rather just buy the computer I need and not fuss with it. I think both of those "modes" are completely valid, and it's great that there are many options on the market for people in both groups. Is it perhaps "annoying in theory" that I couldn't upgrade my Mac's…
> But I'm never going to want to do that, so I don't experience any practical annoyance. It seriously looks like finding an excuse.
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Apple supports their hardware (both repairs and software updates) for much longer than anyone else ever. While I have no qualms about opening up my Dell desktop, I wouldn't dare touch a laptop. Laptops, even before Apple soldered the components in, were extremely fragile. My Sony Vaio for example had a broken key and the only option was to replace the entire keyboard. In essence, I'd rather go with a company that wil…
But apple laptop repairs are basically the price of a new machine, and they've had severe quality problems for a few years. May as well but a new Dell every 2 years for half the price
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#516“SSDs across the line with quadruple the storage” 1/4 TB of storage in the $1800 model, 1/2 TB in the $2300 one. Ugh. (So before the lower-end one had 64GB? [Edit: Nope, 1 TB Fusion Drive, thanks smnrchrds!] That would be FULL just from installing the one game the press release mentions.) What kind of magic fairy dust SSDs are they using that you can't have a sensible amount of storage space at those prices? Looking…
Don’t buy a desktop computer with non-user replaceable/upgradeable disks. In an air form factor I can buy the argument that it saves 50 grams or one mm of thickness. In a desktop it’s just ridiculous. Having any other standard than 2.5” or nvme is silly, and ideally a desktop even in the iMac form factor should have at least one empty 2.5” slot.
I accidentally ordered the 'wrong' iMac (256gb SSD) which turned out to be the right option because the fusion drives seem to have issues. Had a 2TB SSD hanging off the back for the past 6 months until i finally went to install it internally. Sadly, if you didn't order your machine with a SATA drive, it doesn't have a SATA Cable -- hence having to disassemble the entire thing to get to the plug on the logic board that lets you add a drive.
Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update
#517The one thing I keep missing on my 5k iMac is some form of video-in. Would be great if I could connect my MB Pro to it and use the iMac as a display. Perhaps even in a window and all mouse and keyboard events to the window get passed to the connected MacBook.
https://www.quora.com/Why-cant-the-iMac-27-5K-be-used-as-an-...
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I have a later 2017 revision of that one, never really had an issue with CPU speed. Mine has RAM maxed to 16Gb though, perhaps that helps. It's a great machine: a real computer but with iPad pro dimensions.
The "best" CPU that comes in that lineup is the Intel Core i7-7Y75. I have a GPD P2 Max[0] which also has 16GiB of ram and a Intel Core m3-8100Y... Not to brag but my CPU does seem to bench higher[1][2], and for me it can be painfully slow at times.. Though perhaps the OS is doing me no favours (Sway+Arch/Chromium) [0]: http://gpd.hk/gpdp2max [1]: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/Intel-i7-7Y75-vs-Intel-... [2]: h…
Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update
#519“SSDs across the line with quadruple the storage” 1/4 TB of storage in the $1800 model, 1/2 TB in the $2300 one. Ugh. (So before the lower-end one had 64GB? [Edit: Nope, 1 TB Fusion Drive, thanks smnrchrds!] That would be FULL just from installing the one game the press release mentions.) What kind of magic fairy dust SSDs are they using that you can't have a sensible amount of storage space at those prices? Looking…
Apple SSDs have been historically leaps and bounds ahead of the competition. Apple started using SSDs driven by PCIe while consumers were all using SATA. Jacking up the price was justified. Not anymore. Fast NVME drives are commonplace. Unless these drives are again significantly faster than the competition, which I doubt, that's just Apple doing their thing and not adjusting fast enough.
Apple's drives are no longer faster. They're fast. But high end PC drives are just as fast (and usually 1/3 the price).
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> SSD upgrade from 512 to 1TB is reasonable as well, around $200 Reasonable for Apple maybe, but for $200 you already get a pretty decent 1TB retail SSD.
Crucial P1 NVME 1TB is around 100 Euros in my neck of the woods so charging twice that for an 512GB upgrade is bonkers in my book but clearly I'm not the intended customer base. I guess for companies flush with cash where every employees salary is in the six figure ballpark, the price of Mac configs don't raise any eyebrows in the list of expenses but at least in all companies I've worked so far if I'd have suggested…