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Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by barnabee » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 10:12 PM UTC

dteare wrote: post #14

ceocoder wrote: post #9

Unfortunately this only works with hosted 1Password (as far as I can tell), there doesn't seem to be any support for self hosted vaults. Can Roustem or anyone else from 1Password team clarify this? This was the precise reason I switched to BitWarden 6 months ago, needed a solution where my passwords didn't leave my network.

I'm no Roustem but I'm close. :) You're right, 1Password for Linux integrates tightly with the 1password.com service and as such does not support local vaults.

I currently get by on Linux by syncing my 1Password vault and reimporting it to KeepassXC every time I need a newly added or updated entry. Annoying to have to create new entries on another devices and sync when I need an account on Linux but it works. Looks like this update provides me with nothing useful.

There’s no way I’m moving to a 1Password account, but I might just switch away entirely the next time I need to pay for an update or whatever, given the apparent lack of interest in serving my needs despite the amount of money I’ve paid for updates, etc. to date and the fact that it’s clearly technically possible.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by PascLeRasc » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 10:14 PM UTC

Xylakant wrote: post #19

dteare wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm no Roustem but I'm close. :) You're right, 1Password for Linux integrates tightly with the 1password.com service and as such does not support local vaults.

So how can I access credentials when I’m not connected to the internet? Not at all?

1Password always stores a local cache, you just won't get updates from other devices synced.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by jinx1975 » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 10:17 PM UTC

I use https://passwordlive.github.io

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by the_svd_doctor » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 10:19 PM UTC

Xylakant wrote: post #19

dteare wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm no Roustem but I'm close. :) You're right, 1Password for Linux integrates tightly with the 1password.com service and as such does not support local vaults.

So how can I access credentials when I’m not connected to the internet? Not at all?

Its cached locally on desktop app and phone app.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by shmerl » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 10:20 PM UTC

asdajsdh wrote: post #15

shmerl wrote: post #11

How does it compare to KeePassXC?

It's proprietary, non-free and all your passwords get send out into the wild. So it has all the things for a modern app.

Ah, it's not even open source? I'll pass then ;)

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by atarian » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 10:21 PM UTC

>Our new app is built on great open source projects like the Rust programming language for the underlying logic, and React for a responsive component-based UI.

Is this using webview? On Mac I believe the app is completely native, so does this mean 1Password will be switching over to using webviews across platforms?

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by xoa » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 10:24 PM UTC

Nice to see progress here, though 1P continuing to move away from local control to force subscriptions is regrettable. Even so, the UI hasn't been matched yet IMO, which is important for getting the less technical to use it. We're sadly also still a ways away from passwords being eliminated entirely, so it's still very important to get everyone using one.

One thing still missing I really hope to see though is the local application (on all platforms) supporting hardware tokens for unlock (with a backup master option). That'd be a nice extra security+convenience option which would work across platforms.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by comice » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 10:24 PM UTC

I just moved from (paid) 1p to bitwarden at the weekend due to lack of proper Linux support. I was just testing bitwarden and found I couldn't easily get a good export of my passwords from 1p on Linux, because only their desktop apps support that. It won't run under wine and I ended up installing a Windows VM specifically to do the export.

Was so frustrated at this it pushed me to move to bitwarden. Good for them for sorting it though.

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by ceocoder » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 10:25 PM UTC

dteare wrote: post #14

ceocoder wrote: post #9

Unfortunately this only works with hosted 1Password (as far as I can tell), there doesn't seem to be any support for self hosted vaults. Can Roustem or anyone else from 1Password team clarify this? This was the precise reason I switched to BitWarden 6 months ago, needed a solution where my passwords didn't leave my network.

I'm no Roustem but I'm close. :) You're right, 1Password for Linux integrates tightly with the 1password.com service and as such does not support local vaults.

Appreciate your response. I'll reiterate what I've said past threads - I love 1Password a lot, and used it exclusively from 2012 to early 2020, in addition to using it personally I converted majority of my extended family to it as well. What irks me is that I paid for the desktop (macOS) app and iOS app once back in 2012 and once again for 1Password 7 (or 6?) upgrade, that is not enough to support the company and is primarily the reason why AgileBits went subscription route. Again - 100% understand and I'd like to support this business.

I really don't want to store my passwords on your "servers", and I'm sure there are few others like me - not a majority. In our case BitWarden's idea of paying for a subcription (happy to do it), and hosting BitWarden in my own network - pretty close to local vaults in terms of analogy.

I still like the UX of 1Password, if you ever allow local vaults and still charge subscription, I'll sign up on day 1 - I just don't want anything to do with my entire vault being hosted elsewhere, potentially irrational but when it comes to things we store in 1Password and the like - CC #, Passport number, decryption keys, licence codes, launch codes (jk) - I feel OK with my irrational paranoia.

Thanks again for making 1Password!

Re: 1Password for Linux development preview

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Post by emdowling » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 10:30 PM UTC

I’ve been using 1Password every day for over 11 years now. The oldest passwords I’ve got stored are for Twitter and Dropbox (yes, the passwords have been changed but the records were first created in 2009).

It’s one of those apps which has been made with proper craftsmanship and care, so while I’m not a Linux user, I’d have no problem recommending based solely on Agilebit’s reputation.