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Re: We quit our jobs to build a cabin

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Post by mikeyouse » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 6:50 PM UTC

sb057 wrote: post #51

gautamcgoel wrote: post #37

Reading this, I am reminded of an observation made by the Unabomber in his infamous manifesto. He pointed out that the industrialized, corporate life was making us miserable and depressed. What people really want and need to be happy is to struggle with real problems they care about, and then overcome them through hard work. That is the only way to satisfaction and happiness. He was a smart guy, it's too bad he went…

>He was a smart guy, it's too bad he went apeshit and killed a bunch of people. He killed three people, one of which was arguably unintentional. Further, he has continued writing[1] and appears perfectly lucid, even into his 70's. You may disagrees with his ends and means (I do), but I find it curious that out of the hundreds of political revolutionaries who used terror and murder over the centuries, Kaczynski is vie…

He tried to bring down an airplane with 78 souls on board and his maimed many people in over a dozen bombings -- that goes way beyond 'unintentional'. Dude was a psychopath. Just because his shitty paranoia about marxists and feminists would fit right in on OANN or whatever doesn't mean he's "lucid" or that those thoughts have any merit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_444

Re: We quit our jobs to build a cabin

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Post by seanmcdirmid » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 6:51 PM UTC

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #9

wolco wrote: post #6

They got the property for 3,000 and sold for 115,000 (with cabin) Where can you buy so low for so much land?

You can easily get cheap empty land in the American West so long as it's farther from the nearest city than your average Javascript crapping baboon is willing to drive with his family in the car for a weekend getaway and the parcel is too small for any commercial use. The east coast is similar but all the numbers are smaller and the baboons shit under-performing pharmaceuticals and financial products instead of Javas…

$115k isn't really that high, a lot of New Yorkers and Californians would look at such a price with huge suspicion.

Re: We quit our jobs to build a cabin

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Post by Dirlewanger » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 6:51 PM UTC

bserge wrote: post #79

sb057 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>He was a smart guy, it's too bad he went apeshit and killed a bunch of people. He killed three people, one of which was arguably unintentional. Further, he has continued writing[1] and appears perfectly lucid, even into his 70's. You may disagrees with his ends and means (I do), but I find it curious that out of the hundreds of political revolutionaries who used terror and murder over the centuries, Kaczynski is vie…

He achieved nothing and also hasn't killed enough people. That's pretty much the difference. He's not a revolutionary, just a murderer.

So as long as you achieved something, your trail of blood can be as long as you like?

Re: We quit our jobs to build a cabin

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 6:53 PM UTC

rexpop wrote: post #108

hinkley wrote: post #67

I usually just roll my eyes at stuff like this, despite being dangerously close to the stereotype (however, most of my family is working class, so I actually worked with my hands before becoming a developer), but this line made me angry: > Sometimes, during those months of toil, our anger burned so intensely that we thought the boards we threw into the woods might never land. To paraphrase Gandalf, next time throw yo…

Read past the break, asshole.

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Re: We quit our jobs to build a cabin

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Post by pvg » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 6:53 PM UTC

sb057 wrote: post #51

gautamcgoel wrote: post #37

Reading this, I am reminded of an observation made by the Unabomber in his infamous manifesto. He pointed out that the industrialized, corporate life was making us miserable and depressed. What people really want and need to be happy is to struggle with real problems they care about, and then overcome them through hard work. That is the only way to satisfaction and happiness. He was a smart guy, it's too bad he went…

>He was a smart guy, it's too bad he went apeshit and killed a bunch of people. He killed three people, one of which was arguably unintentional. Further, he has continued writing[1] and appears perfectly lucid, even into his 70's. You may disagrees with his ends and means (I do), but I find it curious that out of the hundreds of political revolutionaries who used terror and murder over the centuries, Kaczynski is vie…

political revolutionaries

For other people to consider you a political revolutionary it helps to have a political ideology. And more than one adherent to it.

Re: We quit our jobs to build a cabin

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Post by dleslie » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 6:53 PM UTC

bserge wrote: post #79

sb057 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>He was a smart guy, it's too bad he went apeshit and killed a bunch of people. He killed three people, one of which was arguably unintentional. Further, he has continued writing[1] and appears perfectly lucid, even into his 70's. You may disagrees with his ends and means (I do), but I find it curious that out of the hundreds of political revolutionaries who used terror and murder over the centuries, Kaczynski is vie…

He achieved nothing and also hasn't killed enough people. That's pretty much the difference. He's not a revolutionary, just a murderer.

He achieved precisely what he set out to do: have his ideas published and widely read. He wanted to be heard. His ideas have continued to be discussed and considered by those interested in anarchism, specifically anarcho-primitivists.

Re: We quit our jobs to build a cabin

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Post by screye » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 6:54 PM UTC

sillysaurusx wrote: post #81

MikeTheGreat wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> find a youtube subscription that satisfies the urge to tinker on a particular topic. I think my life got measurably better when I pivoted from "I want to do this myself" towards "It's just as satisfying to watch someone else do this". Downhill extreme mountain biking is really cool. And fun to watch. And expensive. And requires much more physical fitness than I've got. And dangerous (esp. given my physical fitness…

I think my life got measurably better when I pivoted from "I want to do this myself" towards "It's just as satisfying to watch someone else do this". So true! Works for a lot of things. It's why I stopped playing dota.

Stopping dota was the single most important decision of my life. It is an incredible game, that consumes an incredible amount of mind-space even when you're not playing it.

Dota - the worst 'awesome thing' that can happen to your life.

Re: We quit our jobs to build a cabin

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Post by soneca » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 6:55 PM UTC

I enjoyed a lot the reading, but the title is misleading. Not everything went wrong, they even list things they feared could go wrong and didn't. By the end of, it went mostly right (except for spending more time and money than expected).

Not a bad story, on the contrary, but I was interested in reading about the learnings of pursuing a dream and things going actually wrong. What you do next? Try again? Try another thing? Go back to your old life with renewed insight? Gain in wisdom?

Re: We quit our jobs to build a cabin

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Post by PragmaticPulp » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 6:55 PM UTC

I knew a real estate agent who specialized in cabins and mountain properties.

He had a constant inventory of what he called "Divorce Cabins". They were half-finished DIY cabin builds or renovations that turned out to be way more stress and work than the couples expected. This tended to lead to divorce, which lead to a forced sale of the property.

Experienced contractors would pick them up at a discount, finish the work with their crews, and sell them off.

These things are doable if you have infinite time and money to spend on renting the right equipment and hiring help for jobs that require experience and/or multiple people. However, it's virtually impossible for someone to do on weekends alone.

Re: We quit our jobs to build a cabin

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Post by dleslie » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 6:55 PM UTC

eezurr wrote: post #60

gautamcgoel wrote: post #37

Reading this, I am reminded of an observation made by the Unabomber in his infamous manifesto. He pointed out that the industrialized, corporate life was making us miserable and depressed. What people really want and need to be happy is to struggle with real problems they care about, and then overcome them through hard work. That is the only way to satisfaction and happiness. He was a smart guy, it's too bad he went…

I imagine in his mathematical, logical head, he figured the publicity and thus spread of his personal philosophy would do more good then the harm of killing a few people. Historically, people don’t weep over And usually don’t consider the suffering of others while enjoying the fruits of labor of people who sweated blood and died in the process of building something (spiritually or physically) great. I feel dirty thin…

As it goes: in Paradise Lost, Lucifer is the most interesting character. Those willing to do evil are fascinating.