27-inch iMac gets a major update • Hacker News Board

Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Post by etrautmann » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 4:26 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #84

tzs wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Single USB-C port Are their hubs yet that can turn one USB C port into several? Or do they still only turn one USB C port into several USB A ports? A couple years ago what I read was that the hold up was that this required more complicated chipsets that would not be available for a few months and would be expensive. More recently, I've read that this won't happen until USB4.

Yes, my girlfriend works with a 2 TB port macbook pro and has a dock like this: https://www.webhallen.com/se/product/313438-ALOGIC-USB-C-Doc... She uses it with a USB keyboard/mouse and PS4 controller and an external 1440p screen.. works without issue.

Doesn’t this still only have one usb-c?

Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Post by newsclues » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 4:26 PM UTC

dijit wrote: post #9

burlesona wrote: post #3

Solid spec bump. Interesting how much emphasis they put on the camera, speakers, and mic; makes total sense in the age of Zoom. I’d also speculate this means iMac won’t be the first computer getting Apple Silicon. I wonder if it will be the last? What’s the consensus guess now? Perhaps a new MacBook Air with good performance but the real “breakthrough” is > 12 hours battery life?

It will almost certainly be a low end macbook. In fact, there's a non-pro 'macbook'[0] that already exists which would be perfect, it was discontinued a year ago, but used ultra-low power CPUs. In fact when they were talking about them (prior to release) they thought they would have ARM CPU's back then. They are fanless and have a 5W thermal envelope, which fits in with the current A12X too. The major criticisms of t…

The Mac mini and MacBook will be first

Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Post by jeffbee » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 4:27 PM UTC

dehrmann wrote: post #95

jeffbee wrote: post #47

I'm always interested in the differences between Apple's Intel OEM CPUs and the ones Intel lists in their catalog. There is no 10th-gen Core i9 CPU that exactly matches what Apple is selling here. In the iMac Pro they are installing a Xeon-W part that has almost twice as much cache as the standard part (43MB vs 25MB). They're not saying how much cache is in the new 27" iMac.

I'm picturing some binning shenanigans on Intel's part and Apple doing enough benchmarks to pick a minimum amount of cache. Or maybe Intel offered them something with odd specs that they have too many of?

Actually is it just marketing shenanigans instead? Are they adding the L2 and L3 together to get their advertised cache size?

Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Post by vincnetas » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 4:27 PM UTC

"Up to 65 percent more plug-ins in Logic Pro X." ?

Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Post by jakobov » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 4:28 PM UTC

it needs thicker bezels

Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Post by icedchai » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 4:28 PM UTC

gjvc wrote: post #42

8GB RAM is pretty derisory for a 2020 machine. Is there a RAM shortage somewhere I haven't heard about?

I have a first generation iMac 27" 5K (late 2014.) They were shipping with 8 gigs back then and I immediately upgraded to 24G. It's ridiculous that 8 gigs is still the default config! I recently ordered one of the new Raspberry Pi 4's with that much.

Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Post by JosephRedfern » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 4:29 PM UTC

saos wrote: post #46

> The 27-inch iMac now comes standard with SSDs across the line Well. Wow. > Apple today also announced that its 21.5-inch iMac will come standard with SSDs across the line for the first time. Double wow I'll be holding out for complete iMac redesign with ARM. I'm hoping something will be announced at their event?

I had the same reaction. It pains me to use a machine that has a HDD... I had no idea that Apple were selling new, £1000+ machines that relied in spinning rust.

Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Post by jeffbee » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 4:30 PM UTC

jshier wrote: post #88

jeffbee wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The post-lamp iMac has always offered user-replaceable SODIMM slots in a number sufficient to occupy all of the CPU's memory channels. The late 2009 model had 4 on the bottom, the 2015 has 2 one the back, these new ones have 2 and the Pro model has 4 (because the Pro CPU has 4 channels).

27" iMac has always had 4 RAM slots.

I see. I assumed since all the catalog configs are 2-way they only had two slots, but I just opened mine and it has 4.

Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Post by ChrisMarshallNY » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 4:31 PM UTC

Oooh...I'd hate to be the one that shelled out $5K for an iMac Pro. I guess that critter will be seeing a bump of its own, soon.

Re: 27-inch iMac gets a major update

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Post by ogre_codes » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 4:31 PM UTC

PascLeRasc wrote: post #16

ogre_codes wrote: post #11

Finally they ditch spinning media on the base models. Also notable, the rumored iPad-like style changes are conspicuously absent, these look pretty much identical to the older iMacs. Otherwise this looks like a decent bump all around. Notably, the iMac Pro also got some love (though not too much it seems?)

Massive upgrade for people working at companies whose IT refuses to buy anything but the cheapest model.

> Massive upgrade for people working at companies whose IT refuses to buy anything but the cheapest model.

In my experience, the companies who always buy the cheapest model tend to avoid Macs entirely. The big place I see the base iMac popping up is at schools.