Apple revoked longtime Mac developer's code signing certificate with no warning

Post by charlieMonroe » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 2:42 PM UTC

hunter2_ wrote: post #27

gruez wrote: post #24

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Okay, so what are the situations where it can be false? * apple actually did communicate to them, but it was via carrier pigeon or something and it got lost * apple is under gag order * the developer is actually a long time repeat offender and is trying to evade via sockpuppet accounts None of them seem plausible to me. Also, unlike with the apple 30% refund fiasco, we know for sure this is happening, because other u…

How does other users receiving errors prove that the developer received no warning? Your first bullet point seems entirely plausible, albeit the failure mode is likely less avian.

Post by rimliu » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 2:44 PM UTC

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #50

bzb3 wrote: post #33

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Apple is not a monopoly. Additionally this is a Mac app and you can sideload apps on Macs

They pretty clearly have a monopoly on iOS app stores. Now we can skip the part where somebody says that you can't have a monopoly on your own product and then I point out that monopolies always look like that because their product is the only one in the market, and the reason that android app stores and iOS app stores are different markets is that you can't install Android apps on iOS devices or vice versa.

    > Now we can skip the part where somebody says that you
    > can't have a monopoly on your own product

Post by ilikehurdles » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 2:44 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #58

ballenf wrote: post #37

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- Developer was hacked and is unaware of it. - Developer accidentally clicked "revoke my cert" (no idea if that's a real button, but that's not the point). - A national security agency sent one of those scary letters preventing Apple from speaking but requiring the action. - Developer had a mental breakdown and has lost grip on reality. - Developer realized app was infected with malware and ... Truth is stranger than…

> - Developer was hacked and is unaware of it. If that's the case why wasn't that communicated to him? >- Developer accidentally clicked "revoke my cert" (no idea if that's a real button, but that's not the point). >- Developer had a mental breakdown and has lost grip on reality. While these are possible, they seem very unlikely. Compare the numerous cases of Big Tech silently revoking people's account with no notice…

Post by AnthonyMouse » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 2:46 PM UTC

rimliu wrote: post #73

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #50

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They pretty clearly have a monopoly on iOS app stores. Now we can skip the part where somebody says that you can't have a monopoly on your own product and then I point out that monopolies always look like that because their product is the only one in the market, and the reason that android app stores and iOS app stores are different markets is that you can't install Android apps on iOS devices or vice versa.

> Now we can skip the part where somebody says that you > can't have a monopoly on your own product No, we actually cannot skipt that part. Or maybe we can skip the part where you are human and not a camel and then discuss how many days can you spend in a desert without water?

Post by rimliu » Tue, Aug 04, 2020, 2:47 PM UTC

veidr wrote: post #62

pearjuice wrote: post #8

Sadly, this is what a walled garden results in. Please don't be surprised, shocked or even remotely discontent because by signing the ToS you have waived away any and all of your rights regarding the use and publishing of software in this walled garden. The only reason an issue like this will get "fixed" is when this (post/tweet) goes viral and the PR department will work extra hard to correct this.

WTF. I dare any one of you who downvoted this to explain why in public.