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Apple revoked longtime Mac developer's code signing certificate with no warning

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Re: Apple revoked longtime Mac developer's code signing certificate with no warning

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Post by raxxorrax »

CodeWriter23 wrote: post #6
jtbayly wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there something wrong with downloading videos to my computer?

> Is there something wrong with downloading videos to my computer? Nope. Creating a tool perceived by those with enough lawyers to be a “copy protection circumvention device” however does run afoul of the DMCA.

And platforms doing standing back flips to appease stupid legislation.

Reminds me of YouTube blocking Blender videos... had other reasons though, don't remember exactly, but it had to do with them not monetizing their videos and really, really bad support.

Re: Apple revoked longtime Mac developer's code signing certificate with no warning

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Post by tclancy »

jtbayly wrote: post #4
lqet wrote: post #3

I suspect this is why: > Ever wished you could save a video from the Internet? Search no more, Downie is what you're looking for. Easily download videos from thousands of different sites.

Is there something wrong with downloading videos to my computer?

No, it's more that it's easy to guess the likely cause here:

* a lawyer sends a DMCA request to Youtube

* a Youtube bot looks at the offending request and finds a user agent

* Kicks off automated warning to Apple bot

* Apple bot shuts down developer account

All that's really needed here is a bot to post these things to Twitter and HackerNews and then an API for the service bots to read the complaints and undo the action with a phony apology post

Re: Apple revoked longtime Mac developer's code signing certificate with no warning

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Post by raxxorrax »

pearjuice wrote: post #8

Sadly, this is what a walled garden results in. Please don't be surprised, shocked or even remotely discontent because by signing the ToS you have waived away any and all of your rights regarding the use and publishing of software in this walled garden. The only reason an issue like this will get "fixed" is when this (post/tweet) goes viral and the PR department will work extra hard to correct this.

Don't know why you are downvoted since you are completely correct. It is unfair to the developer but we wouldn't even have this discussion if people rejected app stores.

I like that more developers just reject software certification processes. There is zero benefit aside from lock in.

Re: Apple revoked longtime Mac developer's code signing certificate with no warning

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Post by luxuryballs »

lqet wrote: post #3

I suspect this is why: > Ever wished you could save a video from the Internet? Search no more, Downie is what you're looking for. Easily download videos from thousands of different sites.

"downie"? could it just be the name? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Downie

though if it was that you'd think they would just pull the app and ask him to rename it...

Re: Apple revoked longtime Mac developer's code signing certificate with no warning

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Post by judge2020 »

raxxorrax wrote: post #11
CodeWriter23 wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is there something wrong with downloading videos to my computer? Nope. Creating a tool perceived by those with enough lawyers to be a “copy protection circumvention device” however does run afoul of the DMCA.

And platforms doing standing back flips to appease stupid legislation. Reminds me of YouTube blocking Blender videos... had other reasons though, don't remember exactly, but it had to do with them not monetizing their videos and really, really bad support.

https://www.blender.org/media-exposure/youtube-blocks-blende...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17347560

Basically they needed to enable monetization since [I assume] Google was taking a non-negligible loss by hosting all of their content for free.

Re: Apple revoked longtime Mac developer's code signing certificate with no warning

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Post by gruez »

CubsFan1060 wrote: post #14

Perhaps we should wait to get the whole story to discuss. Didn't we just go through this with the "Apple doesn't return 30% on refund" fiasco last week?

Isn't silently revoking a longtime mac developer's certificate bad practice, regardless of the justification?

Re: Apple revoked longtime Mac developer's code signing certificate with no warning

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Post by DethNinja »

pearjuice wrote: post #8

Sadly, this is what a walled garden results in. Please don't be surprised, shocked or even remotely discontent because by signing the ToS you have waived away any and all of your rights regarding the use and publishing of software in this walled garden. The only reason an issue like this will get "fixed" is when this (post/tweet) goes viral and the PR department will work extra hard to correct this.

Another option would be changing the legislation. I wouldn’t hold my breath in the case of USA but rest of the world should certainly limit the monopoly of walled gardens as it limits the competition.

Re: Apple revoked longtime Mac developer's code signing certificate with no warning

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Post by vaxman »

Apple also has the ability to remotely login to EVERYONE's Internet-connected Mac computers and monkey around (removing software etc.). Of course, they only use this when THEY feel it's really necessary. Does not matter if you subscribe to any of their paid services, does not matter if you bought a used MacMini for 50 dollars or paid 50,000 dollars for a MacPro7. Some would say "great, wish we could do it to real viruses" but others would say "what if they make a mistake trying to fix things, or if this awesome power is misused like Twitter credentials".
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