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Ask HN: Do you have a daily cash stream?

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I'm a web and software developer. Contracting and been running on and off various online businesses, with varying degrees of success. Just like everyone else, I had periods of feast and periods of famine.

A few days ago I was talking with a friend of mine who among other businesses in Ireland and Croatia runs a bar in Zagreb, Croatia. His reasoning behind running a bar is that the bar serves as a daily cash stream. Something definitely we all need and something that helps a great deal.

Anyway, do you have a side hustle like that, and what is it?

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#2
Web guy here (more PM than developer). The two things I've done to keep the (unavoidable) feast/famine cycle at bay are:

1) keep two work bank accounts, one for daily use, one savings, and syphon off more than needed from daily > savings when invoices are paid. Example: client pays us £5k. We know we need to put aside corporation tax (we're UK based) of 20% on profit, but instead we put aside 25%. After a while of doing this you end up with a nice chunk of cash in the savings pot for any really famine-y times.

2) Retainers and ongoing "low effort" rolling work. We've got a bunch of clients on board who pay us for hosting, maintenance, the odd fix - they pay annually so it's a good "known" source of income without varience. I mean, obviously sometimes they churn and decide they don't need us any more, but for the most part it's solid. This second source is also good because we offer it whenever we do new work - so typically a project will pay for the project but then also for the ongoing retainer as well.

The second thing is important to note for developer type people I think - namely, people pay for things that you (as developer) wouldn't necessarily pay for. I'm surprised at the high percentage of clients who sign up to maintenance agreements (it's north of 95%), purely because they want someone onboard who will hold their hand / look after stuff that they don't understand.

So I guess I'm saying - do a side hustle, totally - but maybe start by looking closer to home. Existing clients are really, really easy to sell to, easier than a new project and probably easier than working in a bar, too :-)

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Web guy here (more PM than developer). The two things I've done to keep the (unavoidable) feast/famine cycle at bay are: 1) keep two work bank accounts, one for daily use, one savings, and syphon off more than needed from daily > savings when invoices are paid. Example: client pays us £5k. We know we need to put aside corporation tax (we're UK based) of 20% on profit, but instead we put aside 25%. After a while of do…

Nicely put. Retainers are indeed a great revenue stream. Yet, I was thinking more in terms of daily cash stream generated by regular quick cash transactions. That's why I mentioned by buddy running a bar as his side hustle.

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This is also something you can kind of simulate through software, right? I haven't used it myself, but it seems along the lines of what software like YNAB is - setting future targets for budget categories, and then funding them as chunks of money come in, such that for any particular day per time period, you can see if you are ahead of or behind schedule.

Zooming out, there's a lot of tech theory on buffers and streams that apply. A "JIT" stream is something that doesn't need a buffer if it's perfect and reliable and consistent enough. The YNAB approach is more about using that buffer.

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Around 10 years ago I wrote a mac app and put it on the mac app store, no amount of marketing spend seemed to drive sales up significantly to be break-even, but conversely even with no marketing, it makes on average $10 a day (less the apple cut and taxes).

That doesn't seem like much but if I had 10 niche apps which did the same then I'd have a pretty nice income floor.

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Around 10 years ago I wrote a mac app and put it on the mac app store, no amount of marketing spend seemed to drive sales up significantly to be break-even, but conversely even with no marketing, it makes on average $10 a day (less the apple cut and taxes). That doesn't seem like much but if I had 10 niche apps which did the same then I'd have a pretty nice income floor.

~$3000 a year doesn't seem like nothing. Especially if you don't put much work into it on an ongoing basis.
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