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Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by ksec »

Jedd wrote: post #369

As an Australian with a Pixel XL which is still perfectly usable, just lacking 'support': > ... it’s fascinating that the most important detail is the price: $349. Local pricing on google store is A$599, despite US$349 ~= A$490. So not quite the same bargain for us, though not hugely surprising. > ... it’s worth remembering that technically, fall ends on December 21st this year. Living in a country with only a dozen…

>Local pricing on google store is A$599, despite US$349 ~= A$490.

If I remember correctly, AUS has a 10% VAT. So that is $539.

For the extra $60, you get an additional year of warranty and consumer protection that is offered by law.

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Post by ksec »

amanzi wrote: post #193

Why can't Google sort out its global distribution? The Pixel phones have only ever been (officially) available in a handful of countries and this one is no different: "Australia, Canada, France, Germany, India (coming soon), Ireland, Italy, Japan, Singapore, Spain, Taiwan, United Kingdom, United States".

Half way down the page, at least someone on HN figure out the most important issues with Google and Pixel. Distribution.

Actually some of them are new on the launch list. Taiwan and Japan I believe did not get Pixel when it launch, it tends to come later. And even when it arrived, you cant really get it anyway.

Just to show how much Google care about its Pixel Phone.

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Post by damnyou »

sf_rob wrote: post #283

>The camera and its clean version of Android are the main ways that Google is aiming to differentiate the Pixel 4A from the likes of the OnePlus Nord, Samsung Galaxy S71, and iPhone SE. I think it's weird to include the SE on that list. iOS seems like a great choice for a "clean" OS and the SE's camera, while not the highest end or with several sensors, is pretty great. A better emphasis would be storage and RAM whic…

It's the Android OS that's the differentiator vs an iPhone. As much as I dislike iOS, I do think it is clean.

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Post by etaioinshrdlu »

ksec wrote: post #407

The Pixel 4A comes with an USB-C to USB-C cable that is only capable of USB 2.0 speed. USB-C Supporters have been saying all the crappy USB 2.0 USB C cable are fake or counterfeit cables from Alibaba. Now we have one, officially from Google.

If I'm not mistaken, the macbook charging cables from Apple are also limited to 2.0 speed. (They sell a separate cable for actual data transfer.)

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Post by ehsankia »

nfriedly wrote: post #327
ehsankia wrote: post #312

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even then, the number of cameras doesn't mean much, Pixel 4a still takes better photos than most 800$+ phones with 3-4 lenses. Also, it really depends on your use case, but most people don't need extra storage with 128GB base storage.

Not sure if you meant to reply to me, but I agree with you about the cameras. Not sure I just about the storage, though. I have a Pixel 2 with 128 gigs, and I occasionally find myself having to go through and delete some things to make room for whatever new thing I want. If they're not going to include a micro SD slot (which I would prefer), then they really do need to put a generous amount of flash on the device.

It was mostly a reply to:

> On a hardware-level, though, I agree, the A71 is a much better value.

Just because it has better hardware "specs" doesn't mean much. For example, there are phones nowadays with 112MP cameras that still take worse photos than Pixel's 12MP camera. Similarly, 12 or 16GB ram which a lot of phones flaunt makes absolutely no difference.

I'm not saying you're falling for that, but unfortunately a lot of people do direct spec sheet hardware comparisons without understanding what the numbers even mean.

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Post by Krasnol »

gknoy wrote: post #140
Krasnol wrote: post #138

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I understood it that way. What did you understand?

Menu fatigue is real, I experienced it only a few weeks ago. PC laptops often differ just enough in things like build quality processor version, RAM amounts, screen quality that you are constantly trying to balance "best" or compare A vs B vs Q, and if you care a lot about maximizing value for your budget, you end up spending hours looking at reviews, benchmarks, etc. In contrast, with a Macbook, I know it's not perf…

I don't really get that logic.

Sure you can better decide on budget with Apple but only if you compare within Apple products. But you are not really comparing anything that makes sense at that point.

So you either care about comparing or you don't. If you care, having a wide range of choices is the optimum. And even if you don't care, you can still outsource your comparing job to the salesperson or your favourite pc part picker page, test magazine, etc.

There is no real upside to just go for Apple because you're overwhelmed with the possibilities of the alternative.

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Post by jessriedel »

dangus wrote: post #404
pixelmonkey wrote: post #401

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The nice part of rear fingerprint sensor is that it's super natural to grab your phone out of your pocket and unlock it in one simple (blind) motion. So you are quite literally never waiting for the phone to unlock, it's always unlocked by the time you lift it from your pocket.

So, as my original comment pointed out, the two “unlock” phases are: 1. Phone standby to phone on (as you describe) 2. In-phone software actions, typically, password manager or locked/private apps (banking, etc) For case #2, I greatly prefer FaceID. For case #1, it’s a toss up for me.

Ok, but interactions of type #2 are probably a hundred time rarer. Personally, I rather like that I have to actively decide to authorize the use of a password.

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Post by bigiain »

FeepingCreature wrote: post #373
freeqaz wrote: post #363

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I ended up making this jump. What I've found works best for me: - In the car I have a Bluetooth audio adapter for the aux in my older car. Works great. - In my backpack I have a pocket where I always leave a headphone adapter. I always put it back if I use it. - Bluetooth to Aux adapter with a small battery. Costs like $20 on Amazon and also lives in my backpack. Has saved my ass many times. Beyond that, I just own m…

I mean, I have a phone with an audio jack, and I plug my headphones into the audio jack and I am happy. How would you sell "no audio jack" to me? What's my gain here?

I don't think there's any "gain", but there's possibly not as much downside as you're thinking. I just leave my adaptor plugged into my headphones all the time, so it's really no different plugging the lighting connector in compared to plugging a 3.5mm audio connector. More hassle if you have multiple sets of headphones I suppose (and I do, but only one cabled set that I use regularly, and a bluetooth set as well).

There's still a minor downside, I can't charge my phone with my (wired) headphones plugged in - but I can get almost 2 days without charging my phone (an XR) so that's never bothered me at all.

For me, the camera on the iPhone XR is _totally_ worth the "downside" of Apple's "no audio jack" decision. That's a very personal thing (I want great low light camera performance for band/gig photos) and it's not something I'd ever tell somebody else is an important purchase decision for them. Same for you, there's no way I'd try to "sell no audio jack" to you. But I might advise that whatever _other_ feature a specific phone has for your personal use cases might possibly override the downsides of no headphone jack.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by aagha »

mchusma wrote: post #131

My pixel 3a is by far the best phone I have ever owned (across both iOS and Android). Comparing the 4a to this it looks like a bunch of solid incremental improvements across the board. Huge fan of basically everything here. Price, screen size, phone size. Battery size could be a touch bigger, as my 3a has the best battery life I just wish for about 10% more for edge cases.

Do you think you might trade in your 3a for the 4a?

Also, have you looked at the FDE.ai app to help optimize the battery life? I find my battery life to go 90 minutes to an hour longer now with FDE.

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