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Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Has Audio Jack! (Comparison with other Pixel 4's) - https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pix...

One of the biggest differences between the 4a and the older 4 and 4 XL is that the 4a has a rear fingerprint reader, whereas the 4 and 4 XL want you to use face unlock. So strange that this isn't emphasized (or even mentioned) on the comparison page. This was actually the primary thing that kept me on a Pixel 2 for so long, since it also has a similar rear fingerprint sensor design (and I just pre-ordered the Pixel 4…

Pixel 3 also has a fingerprint reader in the back.

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As an Australian with a Pixel XL which is still perfectly usable, just lacking 'support': > ... it’s fascinating that the most important detail is the price: $349. Local pricing on google store is A$599, despite US$349 ~= A$490. So not quite the same bargain for us, though not hugely surprising. > ... it’s worth remembering that technically, fall ends on December 21st this year. Living in a country with only a dozen…

Don't forget that US prices don't include sales tax. Where I am, sales tax adds another 9%, so about 380 USD.

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As an Australian with a Pixel XL which is still perfectly usable, just lacking 'support': > ... it’s fascinating that the most important detail is the price: $349. Local pricing on google store is A$599, despite US$349 ~= A$490. So not quite the same bargain for us, though not hugely surprising. > ... it’s worth remembering that technically, fall ends on December 21st this year. Living in a country with only a dozen…

I'm in Tasmania, so that gave me quite the giggle. Yeah, well, Australian vendors are all trying to pay down their Toyota Prados and their seven rental property... so, fair go eh. On a more serious note, where can I get the Pixel A4 locally? I check a couple online stores yesterday but didn't see it yet.

JB and Google Store both have it.

JB says the release date is September 10.

https://www.jbhifi.com.au/products/google-pixel-4a-128gb-jus... https://store.google.com.au/product/pixel_4a

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Pixel 4a battery is bigger than that of the Pixel 4, and it has a much less energy intensive screen. I think it would be enough for most regular phone users that the Pixel 4a targets.

It's pretty absurd that their cheaper offering for the same major version of the hardware has both better battery life and a headphone jack. Both of those things are way more important to most people than a fancy camera or pointless machine learning features.

The 4a has extra storage over the base 4 as well. I don't know what Google was thinking.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Has Audio Jack! (Comparison with other Pixel 4's) - https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pix...

One of the biggest differences between the 4a and the older 4 and 4 XL is that the 4a has a rear fingerprint reader, whereas the 4 and 4 XL want you to use face unlock. So strange that this isn't emphasized (or even mentioned) on the comparison page. This was actually the primary thing that kept me on a Pixel 2 for so long, since it also has a similar rear fingerprint sensor design (and I just pre-ordered the Pixel 4…

I recently went back to an iPhone 6s while my iPhone XS was in for repairs. Boy, did I miss FaceID (though some of the pain was also due to the change in certain key combinations and gestures between home button and notch iPhones, I had to go back in time and re-learn some old habits).

Why did I miss it? Because FaceID will unlock the notification area and its associated actions before I perform any action or even touch the phone.

Let’s say I get a text, my phone is on the night stand. I just look at it and it already unlocks, no reaching.

It lets you skip a step and start interacting with the screen before the phone has unlocked. Perhaps less of a big deal with the back-mounted fingerprint sensor, in that case I could interact with the thumb simultaneous to unlocking the back.

Using password managers was another big one. Instead of tapping the auto fill button, then tapping the fingerprint sensor, it was all one click. Opening bank apps, same thing. FaceID is always one less finger motion.

Mask wearing has thrown a wrench into it but Apple has added logic to quickly bring up the pin pad when it detects a face mask. Also, sometimes it seems to learn my masked face, but that’s less reliable.

I don’t know how this compares to Pixel face unlocking at all, admittedly.

And I never understood why Apple didn’t use the rear mounted fingerprint sensor. But I do understand why they think the benefits of face unlocking outweigh the drawbacks.

Some examples not related to the action of unlocking: when your alarm goes off, the noise gets quiet when you look at the phone. Also, the screen won’t time out and turn off while your eyes are looking at it.

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I broke the shopping cart by adding two pixel 4a devices + care plans, 1 with a trade-in. Now going to store.google.com/cart returns 500 errors (Error code: TIMM) and support is non-existent. Store chat and phone support look like they don't exist. Off to a great start!

It told me "The requested URL was not found on this server." when trying to Check Out until I enabled third-party cookies.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the biggest differences between the 4a and the older 4 and 4 XL is that the 4a has a rear fingerprint reader, whereas the 4 and 4 XL want you to use face unlock. So strange that this isn't emphasized (or even mentioned) on the comparison page. This was actually the primary thing that kept me on a Pixel 2 for so long, since it also has a similar rear fingerprint sensor design (and I just pre-ordered the Pixel 4…

Pixel 3 also has a fingerprint reader in the back.

While that's fair, very few people are (nor should they) swapping out their devices every year.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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post #394

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty absurd that their cheaper offering for the same major version of the hardware has both better battery life and a headphone jack. Both of those things are way more important to most people than a fancy camera or pointless machine learning features.

The 4a has extra storage over the base 4 as well. I don't know what Google was thinking.

I'm probably gonna sell my Pixel 4 at a loss and get one of these instead. Can anyone explain why I shouldn't? I have no need for a decent camera, prefer fingerprint unlock, and loathe that I can't use my headphones easily. I also use my phone a bunch so battery is super important to me. Don't play mobile games either.

Is it going to be an extremely slow experience or something? Should I expect apps to be laggy?

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Finally! A small phone with decent specs and a headphone jack is really all I want these days (and is almost extinct as far as phone design goes). The Pixel 4a seems like a possible alternative to the S10e, which up until now was the only game in town for high quality small-form-factor smartphones.

Given that we're barely 5 years from a 5.8 inch phone being one of the largest phones on the market, I think it's still too early to call it a "small phone". It's certainly not what most people who say they want a "small phone" on this forum are looking for.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Finally! A small phone with decent specs and a headphone jack is really all I want these days (and is almost extinct as far as phone design goes). The Pixel 4a seems like a possible alternative to the S10e, which up until now was the only game in town for high quality small-form-factor smartphones.

If you're holding out for a smaller phone, the rumored 5.4" iPhone 12 should be noticeably smaller than any Pixel.

Pixel 4a: 144 x 69.4 mm iPhone 12 5.4": 131 x 64 mm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.gsmarena.com/google_pixel_4a-... https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkell...

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