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Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by amardeep »

usrusr wrote: post #106

Google's handset portfolio is starting to get a bit messy. Ignoring any earlier but still available models you have a 4 in 64GB and 128GB versions, a 4a without a 64GB option, a 4a 5G that also differs from the regular 4a in some other specs, no 4 5G, an announced straight 5 and presumably everything in regular and XL versions that may or may not differ in other specs as well. Reminds me of how Motorola made people c…

Wow, they are actually reducing models, and simplifying the range, but you make it sound as if they are increasing confusion by increasing the choices.

Having just a 128GB version is a good thing.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by gopalv »

nemacol wrote: post #78
malkia wrote: post #27

Has Audio Jack! (Comparison with other Pixel 4's) - https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pix...

Yes! I have a 3a and it has kept me using pixels mainly for this reason. #2 reason is the Polycarbonate unibody. Happy to see they are keeping it in future iterations of the 'a' series.

> I have a 3a and it has kept me using pixels mainly for this reason

Same here - I held onto my Pixel 1 & only jumped to 3A when it came out.

Mostly it was that I had an existing wired setup fitted to my ears, but the real reason to hate BT was that I wasn't always charging them up. The airpods style charging case + a charging mat might have solved those problems, but the charger was more annoying than the wires themselves.

I happily use bluetooth in the car, which doesn't have the same sort of "did I forget to charge it?" problems.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by guyzero »

usrusr wrote: post #106

Google's handset portfolio is starting to get a bit messy. Ignoring any earlier but still available models you have a 4 in 64GB and 128GB versions, a 4a without a 64GB option, a 4a 5G that also differs from the regular 4a in some other specs, no 4 5G, an announced straight 5 and presumably everything in regular and XL versions that may or may not differ in other specs as well. Reminds me of how Motorola made people c…

Going to Samsung's mobile phone model page they currently list 24 models. The most recent data I can find says they lead the market with 22% market share.

I think that empirically it's fine to have a bunch of different models. Market segmentation is a thing.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by golem14 »

partiallypro wrote: post #49
malkia wrote: post #27

Has Audio Jack! (Comparison with other Pixel 4's) - https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pix...

The 3A also has an audio jack. I frankly never use it, and sort of wish it weren't there. I wish they would maybe ship it with a thing you can put in the hole that closes it up to make it seamless, but can be removed.

You mean, like those things ? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0832JRZZK

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by whalesalad »

Krasnol wrote: post #115
andybak wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing that finally made me jump ship to Macbooks about 10 years ago was the fact that I needed a week and a spreadsheet to choose a PC laptop.

So if the specification weren't important for you, why did you bother? I think it's quite nice to have the choice, upgradability, price range, etc.

You ever tried to buy an IBM Thinkpad? There are like 20,000 configurations displayed on the same single website page. It’s a disaster shopping for pre-assembled PC’s.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by JohnTHaller »

andybak wrote: post #112
usrusr wrote: post #106

Google's handset portfolio is starting to get a bit messy. Ignoring any earlier but still available models you have a 4 in 64GB and 128GB versions, a 4a without a 64GB option, a 4a 5G that also differs from the regular 4a in some other specs, no 4 5G, an announced straight 5 and presumably everything in regular and XL versions that may or may not differ in other specs as well. Reminds me of how Motorola made people c…

The thing that finally made me jump ship to Macbooks about 10 years ago was the fact that I needed a week and a spreadsheet to choose a PC laptop.

Most PC manufacturers have dozens of different laptops and about 70% of them should be avoided (bad screen, still using a HDD, etc). I dislike a lot about Apple including the pricing per spec and the arrogance (it took you how long to fix your broken keyboard?) but one thing they usually get right is the simplified selection process within a few categories.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by mschuetz »

malkia wrote: post #27

Has Audio Jack! (Comparison with other Pixel 4's) - https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pix...

I was briefly considering buying an iphone for the first time ever, since I wanted a good camera phone. Scratched that idea when I learned that it didn't have an audio jack.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by Godel_unicode »

usrusr wrote: post #106

Google's handset portfolio is starting to get a bit messy. Ignoring any earlier but still available models you have a 4 in 64GB and 128GB versions, a 4a without a 64GB option, a 4a 5G that also differs from the regular 4a in some other specs, no 4 5G, an announced straight 5 and presumably everything in regular and XL versions that may or may not differ in other specs as well. Reminds me of how Motorola made people c…

There's last year's model, the 4, with two storage options and it comes in big and less-big.

There's a cheap new 4a model, with two radio options and less-big is the only size.

There's an unspecified 5 which is an update to the 4.

What's messy about that? Is there a phone manufacturer who makes fewer models than Google in 2020?

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by airstrike »

gknoy wrote: post #140
Krasnol wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understood it that way. What did you understand?

Menu fatigue is real, I experienced it only a few weeks ago. PC laptops often differ just enough in things like build quality processor version, RAM amounts, screen quality that you are constantly trying to balance "best" or compare A vs B vs Q, and if you care a lot about maximizing value for your budget, you end up spending hours looking at reviews, benchmarks, etc. In contrast, with a Macbook, I know it's not perf…

> there's a clear differentiation of qualities (air, macbook, pro)

There's a lot of overlap between the airs and the non-pro macbooks, IMHO

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Post by tw04 »

usrusr wrote: post #106

Google's handset portfolio is starting to get a bit messy. Ignoring any earlier but still available models you have a 4 in 64GB and 128GB versions, a 4a without a 64GB option, a 4a 5G that also differs from the regular 4a in some other specs, no 4 5G, an announced straight 5 and presumably everything in regular and XL versions that may or may not differ in other specs as well. Reminds me of how Motorola made people c…

vs... Apple?

You have an iPhone XR: 64 or 128GB

iPhone SE: 64, 128, 256GB

iPhone 11: 64, 128, 256GB

iPhone 11 Pro: 64, 256, 512GB

iPhone 11 Pro Max: 64, 256, 512GB

If you make it too hard for customers to feel well-informed about your devices, all but the most casual buyers will simply avoid your brand. Sales and revenue prove this out, Apple is on the verge of bankruptcy... what?

All of that is ignoring that literally every other android handset maker has dozens of phones on the market.

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