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Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Seems interesting if you want a reasonably sized phone with less bloatware, but for 30$ more the Galaxy A71 seems like a better deal, here's a comparison: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9995&idPhone2... > 4500 mAh vs 3140 mAh on the Pixel > microSD card slot vs no card slot on Pixel > The A71 has more cameras > 2 extra GBs of RAM on the A71

The Samsung is missing LTE bands 14, 18, 25, 26, 29, 30, 39, and 71.

The Samsung is larger, which I view as a negative, but that explains how they can have a larger battery capacity.

And it looks like the Samsung does not have the pull tabs for the adhesive underneath the battery[1]. We don't yet have a tear-down of the Pixel 4a but google has been reliably including pull tabs in their phones for years.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMP0LFVpFpg

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#105
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

350 dollars is "budget"?

For something most people use many times a day with a multi-year lifespan? There’s a fascinating economics lesson in how many people are concerned by the cost of a phone but never mention the service plans which almost always cost more.

> There’s a fascinating economics lesson in how many people are concerned by the cost of a phone but never mention the service plans which almost always cost more.

This is the reason why "free phone" plans are so popular. IMO, it's always lower TCO to unbundle these "deals", but so many people only care about their maximum monthly cost.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Google's handset portfolio is starting to get a bit messy. Ignoring any earlier but still available models you have a 4 in 64GB and 128GB versions, a 4a without a 64GB option, a 4a 5G that also differs from the regular 4a in some other specs, no 4 5G, an announced straight 5 and presumably everything in regular and XL versions that may or may not differ in other specs as well. Reminds me of how Motorola made people completely oblivious to new models because there were just too many of them.

Hint: if you make it too hard for customers to feel well-informed about your devices all but the most casual buyers will simply avoid your brand.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#107
post #71

Finally! A small phone with decent specs and a headphone jack is really all I want these days (and is almost extinct as far as phone design goes). The Pixel 4a seems like a possible alternative to the S10e, which up until now was the only game in town for high quality small-form-factor smartphones.

I think it's still way too big. I'd really like a decent phone with a height under 5 inches. At 4.8 inches tall, the Incredible 4G LTE from 2012 remains my favorite phone. The 4A is at least smaller than the 3A (my current phone), so at least they've moved a tiny bit in the right direction.

I have an S8 Edge which is narrower than these current phones, and even that I find too big. The previous generation iPhone SE was really the last phone that I didn't involuntarily drop on my face when trying to operate it whilst lying down.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#108
post #5

I held on to an old 5x for what felt like forever until the 3a came around. I've zero interest in the high end phone market, I'm sort of horrified at 6, 7, $800+ the prices, and I feel like I use fewer and fewer apps all the time. Hopefully google with the 'a' models and Apple with the SE will stick with the mid range products.

Relatively lucky of you to have a 5X that lasted that long: mine succumbed long ago to the "boot loop" issue, apparently due to soldering issues endemic among 5X phones.

Yeah I got lucky.

Every update ... i wondered if it would fall into the loop... but got lucky.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#109
post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

350 dollars is "budget"?

For something most people use many times a day with a multi-year lifespan? There’s a fascinating economics lesson in how many people are concerned by the cost of a phone but never mention the service plans which almost always cost more.

"Multi-year" is technically correct but a little rosy: Google cuts off software updates including security updates after 3 years, by which time one can also expect the hard-to-replace battery to be degraded, and increased probability of screen damage. Phones aren't really designed to be durable objects.

That said, I do appreciate Google's "a" variant of their recent phones for the emphasis on practicality and usability (headphone jack, battery capacity), and the $349 price tag doesn't seem extravagant for what you're getting. Mostly, I just wish they came in a smaller size.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

#110

> 3 years of updates ... Now we're talkin'.

Yep, that's basically the reason I bought my Pixel 2. I still think Apple has a better track record here, but 3 years is better than any other Android phone vendor that I'm aware of.

My S8 just received a security update a couple weeks ago, which puts it at over 3 years of updates. It's stuck on Android 9 though.
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