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Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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4A Review from Marques https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlHnleQU9tQ

I love his reviews.

Notable quirk in this review: around 5:10 where he starts talking about how usable the software is, he also makes an erroneous gesture with his thumb and has to do it again. This is my experience with the Pixel 3a. The gestures require a range of motion that my thumb just does not have. This isn't going to be any better with the 4a, which is even bigger than the 3a.

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post #60

Seems interesting if you want a reasonably sized phone with less bloatware, but for 30$ more the Galaxy A71 seems like a better deal, here's a comparison: https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9995&idPhone2... > 4500 mAh vs 3140 mAh on the Pixel > microSD card slot vs no card slot on Pixel > The A71 has more cameras > 2 extra GBs of RAM on the A71

The only reason I wouldn't buy the Samsung is because of their software. Their hardware is great but their version of Android is its own beast, which is great if you like it, but if you just want vanilla Android or to replace it with something custom then they're often a bit more of a faff.

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#83
post #65

> 3 years of updates ... Now we're talkin'.

The problem with that is, that Google will drop it exactly when those 3 years are over. 3 years isn't very long, especially if you don't buy at release. Some other manufacturers actually provide quarterly updates after those 3 years but are more inconsistent with delivering monthly updates.

Pixels have a pretty good chance of being supported by LineageOS though. I'm still using my Pixel XL (marlin) with LineageOS, running Android 10 just fine.

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6 GB of RAM and 128 GB of storage are both better than my top of the line Pixel 3 from just 2 years ago, so that's good to see. The 730G kind of scares me though, how good is it compared to the top of the line? Are we talking unusably slow? The Pixel 3 issues seemed to be mostly RAM related, not CPU related, so maybe this combo of slower CPU and more RAM would still be faster.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/SD-730G-vs-SD-845_11555_9958.2... Take any benchmarks with a grain of salt, of course, but it appears the 845 is only about 10% faster than the 730G on average. Still that double memory bandwidth certainly affects perceived performance a bit.

Yeah, I always have trouble interpreting synthetic benchmarks on a phone. Obviously it's easy to see X has a score 10% higher than Y, but how does that translate to real world performance? If I'm running Google Maps nav, and then try to open Pocket Casts, will that happen immediately or will I be sitting there for 30 seconds while Android figures out what other app to OOM kill (This was a frequent problem with my Pixel 3, and it made me swear off the Pixel line even though I love the stock Android experience).

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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One of the biggest reasons I'm happy with the increasing competition in the budget segments is that they're starting to make the 'right' sacrifices, slightly negating the distinctive features and advantages of flagship phones. Flagship phones will either have to adapt (introducing more useful features and not extra camera-bloat), or people will just keep buying the cheaper ones.

350 dollars is "budget"?

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Has Audio Jack! (Comparison with other Pixel 4's) - https://store.google.com/magazine/compare_pixel?toggler0=Pix...

The 3A also has an audio jack. I frankly never use it, and sort of wish it weren't there. I wish they would maybe ship it with a thing you can put in the hole that closes it up to make it seamless, but can be removed.

Flex Seal?

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Not a gripe for this phone specifically ($349 is a great price point!) but more for the smartphone industry at large: I'm disappointed in the lack of progress since Huawei introduced the first real telephoto lens on the P30 Pro. Sure, there's the cheap knockoffs from OPPO, and Huawei added a nicer sensor to the P40 Pro, but no real innovation.

That's the big thing holding me (and many people) back from being able to completely let go of DSLRs. The P30 Pro is so close, it's a real revolution. But it's not quite good enough in many situations (autofocus is slow, any kind of action, low light is pretty bad.) Whatever company puts in a truly good quality, versatile telephoto lens... they'll have my money and a massive part of the DSLR market.

I have a feeling that it's going to be either Huawei incrementally improving their telephoto lens, Google delivering a computational breakthrough (and everyone else using it), or Apple/Samsung making some intricate, complex hardware.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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One of the biggest reasons I'm happy with the increasing competition in the budget segments is that they're starting to make the 'right' sacrifices, slightly negating the distinctive features and advantages of flagship phones. Flagship phones will either have to adapt (introducing more useful features and not extra camera-bloat), or people will just keep buying the cheaper ones.

350 dollars is "budget"?

For something most people use many times a day with a multi-year lifespan? There’s a fascinating economics lesson in how many people are concerned by the cost of a phone but never mention the service plans which almost always cost more.

Re: Google announces Pixel 5, Pixel 4A 5G, and Pixel 4A

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post #5

I held on to an old 5x for what felt like forever until the 3a came around. I've zero interest in the high end phone market, I'm sort of horrified at 6, 7, $800+ the prices, and I feel like I use fewer and fewer apps all the time. Hopefully google with the 'a' models and Apple with the SE will stick with the mid range products.

Relatively lucky of you to have a 5X that lasted that long: mine succumbed long ago to the "boot loop" issue, apparently due to soldering issues endemic among 5X phones.
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