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Rhino is genuinely fun to use. Best UX of by far of any program I've ever had the pleasure of using. Blender is frustrating as heck to use in comparison.
Blender has had actually a revamp of the UX exactly because of this sentiment... Might be worth trying again..?
Autodesk criticised by architects
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Re: Autodesk criticised by architects
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I can't speak for Revit but people are looking to switch to Blender from 3dsMax. The problem is not that Blender can't do what 3ds can but it lacks industry standard tooling compatibility. But still a lot of people in the industry are starting the switch to Blender. So change is coming.
It’s rarely the tool itself that’s the issue, it’s the fact that the entire workflow is built around that tool. Any potential rival must not only match what the incumbent provides, but exceed it so obviously that reworking decades old pipelines is worth it.
The pearl is the story, not the speck of grit.
Re: Autodesk criticised by architects
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Europe does build its own software. And anything even remotely successful then gets acquired by some US entity.
This has been a common theme. Dassault owns CATIA and Solidworks tough, and they've been used a lot in Europe.
Best thing there is if you want a head trip back to the 70's
Re: Autodesk criticised by architects
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They want to establish a steady income for a stable and feature complete tool. They want to fund a bunch of developers to maintain the features customers enjoy, or catch up with breaking Windows changes they should be paid to fix anyway, as reasons why subscriptions cost the price they charge.
> They want to fund a bunch of developers to maintain the features customers enjoy or catch up with breaking Windows changes they should be paid to fix anyway That's what $$$ upgrades are for. No need for a subscription if I'm happy without the new features and happy using it on an old OS. I'm happy to pay for new features I might actually use. I'm happy to pay for upgrades for a new OS. As an example though, I used…
Re: Autodesk criticised by architects
#85I'm surprised nobody in the Eurozone has raised similar issues about Adobe.
Currently in the Eurozone you need to submit autodesk formats to get your building permissions and certifications approved. Architecture is a protected profession in the EU and you’ll be surprised just how many architects from construction firms do nothing more than to trace plans they got from interior design and other architecture firms in a PDF format in autocad. There are a few gems on the autodesk forums where p…
Also, trying to communicate with them with anything outside of a PDF is damn near impossible. The very idea of them sending a 3D file to their customers scares them shitless.
Re: Autodesk criticised by architects
#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
They want to establish a steady income for a stable and feature complete tool. They want to fund a bunch of developers to maintain the features customers enjoy, or catch up with breaking Windows changes they should be paid to fix anyway, as reasons why subscriptions cost the price they charge.
> They want to fund a bunch of developers to maintain the features customers enjoy or catch up with breaking Windows changes they should be paid to fix anyway That's what $$$ upgrades are for. No need for a subscription if I'm happy without the new features and happy using it on an old OS. I'm happy to pay for new features I might actually use. I'm happy to pay for upgrades for a new OS. As an example though, I used…
Obviously that would be a better deal for you, that's why it's not an option.
Re: Autodesk criticised by architects
#87I don’t really understand SaaS for such mature products. My work (woodworking) is about making pieces of furniture. Using software is only a part of the process. It is not the actual goal. I want to pay a one off price for a stable and feature complete tool. I don’t want to fund a bunch of developers noodling around with new features I don’t want, or fixing bugs they should be patching anyway, as part of the original…
That’s a valid request. However, continued support or bug fixes in that case might require a much higher upfront price than the one you might be used to. While it’s easy to blame the developers of a product for real or perceived flaws, even if operated entirely offline software products interact with their environment. Hence, a bug you’re having might be due to an operating system update, another third-party applicat…
Also there is often no longer an option to stop paying and just continue using your version, even if you've been paying for the subscription for years. Or they only let you use an old version so you'll need to actually downgrade if you stop paying. This innovation in user hostility I first encountered with Jetbrains.
Re: Autodesk criticised by architects
#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Europe does build its own software. And anything even remotely successful then gets acquired by some US entity.
This has been a common theme. Dassault owns CATIA and Solidworks tough, and they've been used a lot in Europe.
Re: Autodesk criticised by architects
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They want to fund a bunch of developers to maintain the features customers enjoy or catch up with breaking Windows changes they should be paid to fix anyway That's what $$$ upgrades are for. No need for a subscription if I'm happy without the new features and happy using it on an old OS. I'm happy to pay for new features I might actually use. I'm happy to pay for upgrades for a new OS. As an example though, I used…
Why not keep using CS2 (or up to CS5), if you are not using newer features?
Re: Autodesk criticised by architects
#90I don’t really understand SaaS for such mature products. My work (woodworking) is about making pieces of furniture. Using software is only a part of the process. It is not the actual goal. I want to pay a one off price for a stable and feature complete tool. I don’t want to fund a bunch of developers noodling around with new features I don’t want, or fixing bugs they should be patching anyway, as part of the original…
Of course you do. So do I!
However, the bunch of developers wants you to fund them noodling around indefinitely, and sadly they're the ones that choose the business model.
If only FreeCAD had a UI as approachable as Fusion 360...