I remember there was about the same whining last time about the "wrong" placement of the window controls. How old this seems now :)
Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever
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Re: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever
#32Not the best choice in names. If there are problems people are going to refer to it as "Nasty Narwhal."
Catchy name.
I believe the Unity shell will generate that kind of buzz. Programmers (and any Linux distro is geared towards them) are notoriously averse to change and get really attached to their tools.
I only hope the new shell makes sense on multiple 30" monitors, because I don't really like using the built-notebook screen unless I am out of the office (and not on my desk at home) and OSX is weird when you have your document on monitor C and its menu on monitor A...
Re: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever
#33I'm running unity since yesterday - feels like they compromised massively on the full desktop experience for the sake of compatibility with touch-based and netbook devices. I'll give it a week or so though; no-one likes change, and it's impossible to make any significant UI change without hoares of angry and confused users foaming at the mouth until they get their bearings.
I expect that the new interface will divide opinion. If you remember what a kerfuffle there was over moving the close button from right to left then this is a much bigger change.
Re: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
At least on alpha3, selecting the classic desktop results in broken themes. Gnome suddenly reverts to looking completely unskinned and like it did 10 years ago.
I never noticed how fast my GPU was until I crashed the theme engine by accidentally xkilling the bottom panel. And I don't think it looks that bad.
I might be hitting a bug then on the nouveau drivers. because I am getting completely unthemed gtk which looks a lot like Tk.
Re: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever
#35To be fair, we have been program-and-file centric for since the arrival of the Mac (Lisa was less like that, with the stationery thing, Star even more and Smalltalk 80 didn't look like this at all) and a new metaphor could be useful.
Re: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever
#36I remember there was about the same whining last time about the "wrong" placement of the window controls. How old this seems now :)
It seems old, but I still can't stand it:) and that's why I switch those controls back to the right side on every new machine that I use/install (via gconf-editor).
Re: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever
#37"The problem isn't that everything you know and love about GNOME is suddenly gone, and Ubuntu 11.04 is, for all intents and purposes a completely different experience than everything that came before it."
Am I to assume, then, that it follows that because I haven't used Gnome since 1998, the article's claim that this is the "worst Ubuntu beta ever" is absolutely inapplicable to me?
I suppose that since it says "with Unity" in the title as well, I'm expected to forgive its overall link bait nature?
Re: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever
#38People understand this is why other people release betas right? To test new things? To test unfinished products? To gather early feedback?
I've been using Unity for a month or so in Maverick Meerkat (10.10) and I find it great for daily usage, in spite of it's minor glitches.
Re: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever
#39Users always resist change. We should not be afraid to change because of that. Unity has a huge potential IMHO and the best time is when unity does not do very much. It will evolve with people learning to use it. "Release Early, Release Often". I am completely with Canonical, Mark and Ubuntu. The fate favors the brave. Go for it Team Ubuntu.
As for the geeks, they know how to take care of themselves.
Re: Natty Narwhal with Unity: Worst Ubuntu beta ever
#40"Unity is a radical departure, but no less so than GNOME 3.0, which has wisely been pushed back until later this year."
I was wondering where the article author got this idea. It seems as if he must have fallen for an April fool's joke (http://www.gnome.org/press/releases/2011-04-gnome-3.0-resche...).
I compared Unity and Gnome Shell a couple of months ago. At that point there was no comparison; Unity felt like a hacked-together prototype, and Gnome Shell felt like a beta. That's a very short-term view of course.