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SpaceX says Starlink internet has ‘extraordinary demand,’

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Re: SpaceX says Starlink internet has ‘extraordinary demand,’

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As far as Internet numbers go, 700K signing up to receive updates isn't that amazing.

With zero advertising spend I'd say that it is pretty impressive.

So the marketing department of SpaceX works for free?

Re: SpaceX says Starlink internet has ‘extraordinary demand,’

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5 million times, say, $50 means $250 Million a month or 3 billion a year. Not sure if they can get people to switch from optic cable to satellite and while the world is large, very few outside rich countries can afford to pay $50 a month. Nice side business

> Not sure if they can get people to switch from optic cable to satellite

I think the market for this often would not even have a cable option. They’re stuck on old DSL at like 6mbps down or less for $90/mo with bundled landline, or if they’re lucky, the cable company ran a line by their house. If starlink was offering just 20mbps down for $50, everyone I know in the country would switch immediately. I definitely don’t think starlink will compete with city fiber or cable connections. Heck, mine is $30 for 250mbps down. No way satellite is going to compete with that.

In the city, and even small countryside cities, this isn’t a big deal, but rural communities don’t have choice or speed, at least in the US! That’s not a big market on a small scale, but added up across the US, it would be a lot of people.

Re: SpaceX says Starlink internet has ‘extraordinary demand,’

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I moved from Sunnyvale to Los Altos Hills and lost access to broadband. Comcast even told me they offered service at the address, then reneged when I moved in and asked to set it up. More options would be great, and underserved areas aren't as far out as people often think they are. You can be five miles from Google's headquarters and unable to get decent internet.

Tbf, that sounds like a bit of a weird spot in LAH :). But generally agree with your point!

Depends on the altitude of the residence.

Re: SpaceX says Starlink internet has ‘extraordinary demand,’

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Wonder if it'd work for off shore sailing craft?

eg ships, yachts, and that kind of thing

Guessing the in-built motors the user terminals come with for correcting orientation wouldn't know how to cope with waves.

So maybe need some kind of gimbal thing for added stabilisation?

Re: SpaceX says Starlink internet has ‘extraordinary demand,’

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I was, long ago, a microwave radio tech. It's cool to me that line of sight issues still create issues. For the most part, my old line of work is dead because tech marches on. My immediate reaction is that your neighbor should be able to use a troposcatter shot[1] to fix his issues, but I suppose the provider has bigger fish to fry. I'm a bit sad about it, because tech advances have technically made this sort of thin…

It's alive and well in San Francisco! Monkeybrains is an independent ISP that does internet via wireless microwave in SF and Oakland.

Well, "dead" meaning broad use. I'm aware it's niche used here and there. Any troposcatter shots? Or is that dead from a price/performance point vs satellite or other?

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I have a house on a farm. I only have relatively high speed internet (25mb/s) b/c someone set up a line of sight system pointing at a mountain as a co-op. My neighbors' house about half a kilometer away is blocked by a hill so they can't use it. When it's cloudy, I have to use my phone as a mobile hotspot. Coming from San Francisco, I didn't realize how many people face this reality of poor connectivity. I don't care…

My mother's house gets an extraordinary 0.25 Mbit/s download rate. I didn't measure the upload.

50 metres uphill, there's a 4G signal which gets >20 Mbit/s download.

But ADSL is only 0.25 Mbit/s, and that's what you're getting in the shadows.

It's sold as "up to 8 Mbit/s".

Re: SpaceX says Starlink internet has ‘extraordinary demand,’

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Comcast is likely currently working on regulation to block them.

Highly likely. Keep in mind, Comcast owns NBC as well. So probably we’ll get a lot of negative coverage of Elon Musk on NBC and MSNBC in the process. It’s much easier to lobby against a public villain than a public hero. So every tweet by Musk will be amplified out of context. Wouldn’t surprise me even some allegations of foreign impropriety will surface and soon having starlink becomes a national security unless it’…

I know it's very hip and cool to be cynical about journalistic independence these days but newsrooms still take the concept very seriously. There's simply no mechanism by which the CEO of Comcast could simultaneously a) meaningfully affect NBC's coverage of Elon Musk and b) not have it be an open secret and scandal within the industry.

I've worked on the product side of legacy media companies before and trust me, given the disorganization I was seeing in the editorial departments at my peer orgs, they couldn't have pulled this off even if they wanted to.

NBC's coverage of Elon isn't any more negative than it's sister orgs and the simple, occam's razor explanation is that his ridiculous behavior is absurdly good at generating clicks rather than any organized media endeavor against him.

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