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But it doesn't make up for the downside, which is installing robust surveillance software on your phone that sends data to and takes orders from China and is subject to their arbitrary control of messaging. You know what else has a super amazing upside that still doesn't make up for the downside? Methamphetamine.
I think you need to look up Edward Snowden.
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#522Throwaway for obvious reasons. I cannot understand what executive thinks this is a good idea or that it makes any sense in the broader organizational structure of Microsoft. It's been so nice to see five years or so of relatively GOOD acquisitions. LinkedIn made sense: it's allowed for a legitimate Salesforce compete, especially when paired with Dynamics. GitHub was incredibly smart and it aligns well with the resurg…
Microsoft has way too much money coupled with negative amounts of taste and innovative ideas. They're trying to buy their way into being popular and cool. Microsoft TikTok 10 For Enterprise, Long Term Servicing Channel (Not Responding) absolutely will be a flop just like Teams, Mixer, the new Github UI, and Windows. They produce trash products and are a burden on the world.
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#523If the US forced ByteDance to sell Tiktok, the US would lose its last bit of moral high ground in China, the spirit of free market and rule by law. If you are worried about data leakage to China, you set rules and law and enforce them. That is what China is doing. They asked Apple and other cloud service provider to store data in China. The US could setup clear rules and regulations about where to put data of US user…
You obviously don't have much experience with China. China is an authoritarian state and all companies are subject to secret control by the state, essentially branches of the military. There is no legal recourse or protection from such intervention. The government can mandate spy code be inserted and any data they want. You're well intended here, but ignorant of how China operates. There is literally no way to enforc…
>The government can mandate spy code be inserted and any data they want.
Essentially true for US government with US companies too
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I don't know the intent of the questions, but they do seem reasonable. Rewarding: Creators would also be interested in how engaged those viewers are. How well can this traffic convert into services which the creator might offer outside of TikTok? Would that traffic be worth the time of creating professional videos? Real: This is a great question. Are the views real? I still have the story of Facebook faking video eng…
I'm fine with the questions but I still think people are missing my point. This is NOT for professional videos. The whole point is just regular people showcasing some small talent they might have hidden away and thru the algorithm you start to discover these amazingly talented regular people that the other platforms have failed. If I want to see the celebs, brands or professionally shot content I have FaceGram/YouTub…
Marketers will still try. They'll figure out how to get an ROI out of efforts on the platform and then push that as far as they can. Or they'll find it's not possible and give up.
Note: I have spent maybe 10 minutes in TikTok. I don't trust the platform.
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I don't know the intent of the questions, but they do seem reasonable. Rewarding: Creators would also be interested in how engaged those viewers are. How well can this traffic convert into services which the creator might offer outside of TikTok? Would that traffic be worth the time of creating professional videos? Real: This is a great question. Are the views real? I still have the story of Facebook faking video eng…
I'm fine with the questions but I still think people are missing my point. This is NOT for professional videos. The whole point is just regular people showcasing some small talent they might have hidden away and thru the algorithm you start to discover these amazingly talented regular people that the other platforms have failed. If I want to see the celebs, brands or professionally shot content I have FaceGram/YouTub…
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Canada too.
Even so, Canadians trust Americans far more than the Chinese. If they move everything over then it may stop mass bans across the West.
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Indeed. This (CLOUD) of course runs counter to GDPR. Comply with one and fall foul of the other.
Do we have any evidence that a company has been forced into a situation like this yet? Where they've been required by the US to turn over data but prevented by the GDPR? I feel like that would've been big news, but surely it's happened already.
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There's no fixed time cost, every video can be skipped (swiped) within the first milliseconds. I agree repeated jokes can be boring but it's really easy to skip. I also don't like videos that pick the influencer style "Hi everyone, so today I was in the kitchen and then you'll never believe what happened come on I have to show you, here's the top counter...". Next. As soon as I hear those kind of intro I skip. On Tik…
> No, that's unfair, you are saying all of tiktok content is low quality noise, which is wrong I mean, just list the top 10 tiktoks ever, or even top 100... rank them on metrics like content, depth, purpose, knowledge. Then compare them to other platforms or content formats. It'll rank quite low. Of course if you rank it on other things like stickiness/addictiveness, fun, humor, aesthetic, novelty etc, it'll rank per…
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#529It appears as though very few Hacker News commenters have spent any time using Tiktok. It is the only enjoyable, enriching social media service I've ever used. Most everything many of us liked about the old/weird internet is present on Tiktok right now: almost no ads or commercial presense, personal content from real people (not hyper produced productions from influencers and pros), weird content, niche content, orga…
TikTok makes me nauseous. It’s literally crazy to me that we’ve normalized an app targeted to kids and teens that encourages them to make hypersexualized mini music videos that rewards the “sexiest” videos with likes/followers/views/trending. The absolute creepiest part is that anyone can browse and fully download any video without even logging in. You would have to be completely naive to think that there aren’t a mi…
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> It’s like every social network starts out Isn't that more reason to enjoy it while it's still great? Early youtube was fantastic, vine was a joy while it lasted, etc. > but it has especially lowest-common-denominator content Disagree. The whole point of having highly specialized recommendation algo is exactly to avoid LCD content. If I see low quality content, I instantly mark it as "uninterested". I have not seen…
> It's engineered to match your preference. No, these things are literally engineered to maximize engagement. Preferences are complicated, and we often actually prefer to consume less content... or at least would prefer to prefer to do so. Apps don’t measure that, they see eyeballs and maximize.
Both can be true though. Personally I only engage with educational and non-low effort content, and that's what the algorithm feeds me. By definition, my engagement comes from non-low effort content, so to claim that TikTok pushes for low effort content is just plain false.