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Tampa teen accused of being ‘mastermind’ behind Twitter hack

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Post by watwut »

kelnos wrote: post #619
bryanrasmussen wrote: post #601

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No one deserves any blame for being burgled when leaving their front door opened - however if a bank leaves the vault open they deserve blame because what's in the vault is not just theirs. Twitter left the vault open.

That's absurd. If someone does something risky, and gets burned,they share some of the blame for it. Even if they accidentally left their front door open, that's still on them. Certainly the burglar deserves the lion's share of the blame for what happened, but there's plenty to spread around. My view is that if a reasonable person would have taken actions that would have avoided the issue in the first place, a person…

Leaving the door open is risky only because there are people who steal around. Not because leaving the door would be risky no matter where you live and who is around.

If people locked bikes in garages, people eager to steal bikes would have tools to cut chains in garages. So while it is safer to lock the bike, the blame for stealing goes to whoever stole it.

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Post by dane-pgp »

Camas wrote: post #588
dane-pgp wrote: post #289

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"Those who don’t care much about privacy might say that they have nothing to hide. Those who do worry about it might say that keeping their personal data safe protects them from being harmed by hackers or unscrupulous companies. Both positions assume that caring about and protecting one’s privacy is a personal matter. This is a common misunderstanding." https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/privacy/2019/10/pr...

"We have to put an accept button on every new website you visit or democracy will end"

"Any government regulation is literally fascism/communism and will inevitably lead to the deaths of millions of people."

Do you see why straw man arguments aren't helpful?

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Post by peroporque »

montenegrohugo wrote: post #27

If this turns out to be true, then we can conclude two things: 1. It's incredible that the security of Twitter allows for a solitary 17-year old to gain full access to (any) account. 2. This also explains why the profit of the hack was 'only' ~$100k. Many speculated about how incredibly valuable such a hack could be and how much more a group could have profited from this hack. Using it for two hours of bitcoin scammi…

...and

3) if a teen can do it, then so can every intelligence service in the world. Just that they would probably stay quiet for years and years and gather data of "interesting" people.

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Post by shadowgovt »

gus_massa wrote: post #534
shadowgovt wrote: post #221

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FWIW, don't imagine that there was anything as elegant as "logarithmic curve analysis" used to decide that the age of majority is 18. It's an age that was settled upon by common-sense consensus over a grand function of "Well, most Americans (descended from Europeans) thought it should be around 21," and that's probably because 21 is a nice, round number. Then the draft age got pushed to 18 because we needed more bodi…

But they still can not drink alcohol...

It's true. Apparently, that's because mothers against drunk driving campaigned hard to have the drinking age re-raised to 21 after they got their hands on some evidence suggesting that it cut down on deaths due to car accidents.

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Post by antihero »

reitzensteinm wrote: post #539
VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #537

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> Hitting a 17yo with 30 felony charges feels a bit steep to me. Hitting them with 30 felony charges is perfectly reasonable/correct. Those are what the charges are for the crimes. But the punishment for those 30 felonies should/will be adjusted down. I think at most this person will lose 5 years of their life. Not like the 25 year old girl in Seattle that set a bunch of Seattle Police cars on fire during the protest…

The sentences should run concurrently. 4 years for setting a car on fire is not unreasonable, although maybe a little harsh depending on priors. It's a dangerous thing to do. But setting five cars on fire is not particularly worse than setting one car on fire.

Four years of someone's life for damaging an inanimate object? Absolutely absurd. Did people get hurt? No. Fuck that. I often wonder if the "justice" system is a worse thing than criminals some of the time.
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