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Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Yeah, if you look at the network requests Teams makes, many of them include 'skype' in the name. Only thing I went off to guess it is a lot of the same services.

The 'skype' name in the network requests is more a remnant of a last minute change from the internal product name (Skype Teams) than a statement of the technologies underpinning the product. The Teams comms/meeting stack was its own thing - an evolution (or frankenstein's monster mix) of Skype for Business and Skype Consumer technologies. That is one of the reasons why Teams did not have interop capabilities with SfB…

that would explain why skype was horrible in mobile. notification arrived late, messages coming late. thanks god Microsoft Teams is different. I hope Microsoft Teams doing its job better on mobile.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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I think it's a clever play. It would help address the spyware concern by moving it to a US company, and give them a better foothold in Social Networking than Linked-in provides. I'd have a few concerns about if MS can keep it growing- For one, I worry that Microsoft may mismanage it, similar to how they treated Skype. We saw Yahoo buy many reasonable smaller social networks (Flickr, Delicious, Tumblr) and was never a…

Difference is yahoo had arguably one of the worst CEOs ever: Marissa Mayer where as Microsoft has a wizard: Satya Nadella.

What's worst about Marissa Mayer? she arrived when things gone worse. I argued the worst was Jerry Yang.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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You obviously don't have much experience with China. China is an authoritarian state and all companies are subject to secret control by the state, essentially branches of the military. There is no legal recourse or protection from such intervention. The government can mandate spy code be inserted and any data they want. You're well intended here, but ignorant of how China operates. There is literally no way to enforc…

The person you are replying to is Chinese and lives in China. Or at least their post history says so.

In reference to the comment two levels above this one, there is no better representation of HN than somebody who has no idea what they're talking about sounding absolutely convinced about themselves and then not only being wrong, but almost diametrically so.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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post #392

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The person you are replying to is Chinese and lives in China. Or at least their post history says so.

In reference to the comment two levels above this one, there is no better representation of HN than somebody who has no idea what they're talking about sounding absolutely convinced about themselves and then not only being wrong, but almost diametrically so.

It's so beautiful. Muaah delissimo!

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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On the other hand, Tiktok is the only social media platform I absolutely can't stand. Low quality content, repeated jokes, people desperate for attention, impersonal, memes, and all of it video so there's an unavoidable fixed time cost. With so much good high content available on the internet and how little time people have, it saddens me that so much time is spent on the low quality noise.

There's no fixed time cost, every video can be skipped (swiped) within the first milliseconds. I agree repeated jokes can be boring but it's really easy to skip. I also don't like videos that pick the influencer style "Hi everyone, so today I was in the kitchen and then you'll never believe what happened come on I have to show you, here's the top counter...". Next. As soon as I hear those kind of intro I skip. On Tik…

> No, that's unfair, you are saying all of tiktok content is low quality noise, which is wrong

I mean, just list the top 10 tiktoks ever, or even top 100... rank them on metrics like content, depth, purpose, knowledge. Then compare them to other platforms or content formats. It'll rank quite low.

Of course if you rank it on other things like stickiness/addictiveness, fun, humor, aesthetic, novelty etc, it'll rank perhaps quite high for what it is (3-10 seconds usually)

I think in the end it really depends what you're looking for when deciding whether something is low-quality noise.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Every major cloud vendor has zones outside the US. Just because you’re hosted on Azure doesn’t mean you’re hosted in the US or that US law applies to you.

My understanding of the 2018 CLOUD act is that a US headquartered cloud vendor must hand over subpoenaed customer data even if the datacentre is outside the USA. https://www.dlapiper.com/en/us/insights/publications/2018/04...

This is totally irrelevant to the discussion but I found it amusing that the author of that articles name is Jim Halpert and actually very mildly looks like Jim Halpert

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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I think it's a clever play. It would help address the spyware concern by moving it to a US company, and give them a better foothold in Social Networking than Linked-in provides. I'd have a few concerns about if MS can keep it growing- For one, I worry that Microsoft may mismanage it, similar to how they treated Skype. We saw Yahoo buy many reasonable smaller social networks (Flickr, Delicious, Tumblr) and was never a…

> It would help address the spyware concern by moving it to a US company

For the US government, whose only concern is who does and doesn't get to harvest the data from any spyware, yes.

For everyone else, I'm not sure how that resolves any spyware concern.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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I think it's a clever play. It would help address the spyware concern by moving it to a US company, and give them a better foothold in Social Networking than Linked-in provides. I'd have a few concerns about if MS can keep it growing- For one, I worry that Microsoft may mismanage it, similar to how they treated Skype. We saw Yahoo buy many reasonable smaller social networks (Flickr, Delicious, Tumblr) and was never a…

>It would help address the spyware concern by moving it to a US company it might help for some people Personally, i'm a little bit concerned that microsoft just received a $10bn DOD contract, and now the US government is essentially forcing a sale of TikTok to Microsoft. I'm not convinced that the company running the hot new social network (as well as all our source code) owing a bunch of favours to the US govermnent…

I thought we trusted the government to be a good steward over tech? Wasn’t that the entire purpose of the dog and pony show with tech CEOs earlier this week?

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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You obviously don't have much experience with China. China is an authoritarian state and all companies are subject to secret control by the state, essentially branches of the military. There is no legal recourse or protection from such intervention. The government can mandate spy code be inserted and any data they want. You're well intended here, but ignorant of how China operates. There is literally no way to enforc…

The person you are replying to is Chinese and lives in China. Or at least their post history says so.

Then they are in denial, more likely a brainwashed patriot.

I lived in China for many years.

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