Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action

Post by mola » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 8:12 AM UTC

tanilama wrote: post #175

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #106

Not even getting into the CCP ties, it's always struck me as unfair that Western social media companies are banned in China, while Chinese ones have been able to compete Worldwide. In a way this gives Chinese apps an immediate advantage (as some are indirectly calling out in this comment section). If you want to reach out to someone in China, you have to use a Chinese company's app. Since social media is mostly a win…

That is actually fair enough. The Chinese internet censorship isn't only censorship, it is also protectionism under disguise. There is no reason to offer market access to the Chinese companies when China refuses to reciprocitate

Post by mickael-kerjean » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 8:20 AM UTC

flywheel wrote: post #251

coliveira wrote: post #214

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> China couldn't even figure out how to make ball point pens until 2017. China changes very quickly! In 2020 they have 5G technology that blows competitors' pants off. They are sending missions to mars, have more electric cars than any other country, and just yesterday they released a home-grown competitor to GPS.

LOL... GPS.. the US has been doing GPS for 42 YEARS. China is WAAAAAY behind. Call me back when they can produce jet engines that even come close to matching anything the US produces. 5G tech? LOL. Whatever makes you think you are happy, I guess.

Post by flywheel » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 8:32 AM UTC

mickael-kerjean wrote: post #263

flywheel wrote: post #251

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LOL... GPS.. the US has been doing GPS for 42 YEARS. China is WAAAAAY behind. Call me back when they can produce jet engines that even come close to matching anything the US produces. 5G tech? LOL. Whatever makes you think you are happy, I guess.

This strikes me the same as Ballmer's reaction to the iPhone launch laughing at the perspective of such a device to gain any market: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eywi0h_Y5_U

Post by addicted » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 8:36 AM UTC

ApolloFortyNine wrote: post #106

Not even getting into the CCP ties, it's always struck me as unfair that Western social media companies are banned in China, while Chinese ones have been able to compete Worldwide. In a way this gives Chinese apps an immediate advantage (as some are indirectly calling out in this comment section). If you want to reach out to someone in China, you have to use a Chinese company's app. Since social media is mostly a win…

Post by winstonmanor89 » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 8:39 AM UTC

949throaway2020 wrote: post #213

sebmellen wrote: post #159

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That's rather ridiculous. The US has seen massive social instability over the past 400 years. The Revolution, the Civil War, slavery and the Slave Trade, the Great Depression, etc. And the founders of the US, being mostly European, were descended from people who lived through absolutely catastrophic social instability in Europe. Never-ending wars over religion and territory and on and on... What "real chaos" has "Chi…

>What "real chaos" has "China" (which is, by the way, nowhere homogenous) seen that we have not seen? This is ill-informed and easily proven wrong. I'm no China apologist, but the Chinese have suffered the worst human disasters in history. Let's go down the list of top 10 anthropogenic disasters by geometric mean death toll and count the causalities in China [1]: 1. 2nd World War estimated 70 million dead, 17.5 milli…