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Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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As long as it’s a Chinese owned surveillance application I’ll not touch it. I got rid of Facebook for similar reasons (s/Chinese/American). I’m not sure I see the synergies MSFT gets from TikTok - a Snap Inc., makes more sense as a buyer to me.

MSFT has an advertising business. TikTok Ads would be a nice addition to Bing Ads.

Ahh I had forgotten about bing :eek:

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Companies in China have Party Committees, appointed by the government. These committees have oversight over how the company operates, and how the board is appointed. The Chinese government has a strong direct influence inside Chinese businesses, that isn't present in the rest of the world.

Please give me a link, I haven't heard of such organization recently... Edit: Note that CCP does ensure private firms provide support for employees who are also party member to organize relevant activity. State-owned company obviously has party committee, and except great control on personnel, like kind of a board.

They're called Commissars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commissar imagine one standing over as you code and reminding yo what the Party expects...and if x feature is complaint with Party ideals or not.

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It appears as though very few Hacker News commenters have spent any time using Tiktok. It is the only enjoyable, enriching social media service I've ever used. Most everything many of us liked about the old/weird internet is present on Tiktok right now: almost no ads or commercial presense, personal content from real people (not hyper produced productions from influencers and pros), weird content, niche content, orga…

On the other hand, Tiktok is the only social media platform I absolutely can't stand. Low quality content, repeated jokes, people desperate for attention, impersonal, memes, and all of it video so there's an unavoidable fixed time cost. With so much good high content available on the internet and how little time people have, it saddens me that so much time is spent on the low quality noise.

Low quality? TikTok videos are much better (in terms of story arc and editing) than Videos on other social networks. And it takes one swipe to go to the next video. The repeated jokes are part of the TikTok culture. Pure copycats will normally not go viral - only adaptions that add their own spin.

I agree that it is an insane time killer. But that is because the content is so good and presented in and addictive way.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Throwaway for obvious reasons. I cannot understand what executive thinks this is a good idea or that it makes any sense in the broader organizational structure of Microsoft. It's been so nice to see five years or so of relatively GOOD acquisitions. LinkedIn made sense: it's allowed for a legitimate Salesforce compete, especially when paired with Dynamics. GitHub was incredibly smart and it aligns well with the resurg…

People seem to forget that Microsoft has an ad business. TikTok is a great addition to Bing. Not for consumers - but for advertisers.

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If the US forced ByteDance to sell Tiktok, the US would lose its last bit of moral high ground in China, the spirit of free market and rule by law. If you are worried about data leakage to China, you set rules and law and enforce them. That is what China is doing. They asked Apple and other cloud service provider to store data in China. The US could setup clear rules and regulations about where to put data of US user…

> the US would lose its last bit of moral high ground in China, the spirit of free market and rule by law The US will continue to shed international credibility so long as we Americans continue to engage and enable mainstream discussion of conspiracy theories and populist applesauce. This Trabant quality excuse of an administration is just a symptom of that. Honestly, I would not be surprised if the sole reason that…

Hey, no shitting on the Trabbi!

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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It appears as though very few Hacker News commenters have spent any time using Tiktok. It is the only enjoyable, enriching social media service I've ever used. Most everything many of us liked about the old/weird internet is present on Tiktok right now: almost no ads or commercial presense, personal content from real people (not hyper produced productions from influencers and pros), weird content, niche content, orga…

If you were in Hong Kong, you will get thrown in jail over a post of critiquing the government actions through viral dancing memes, which the CCP has access to TikTok / Douyin.

If you anger the CCP in Hong Kong through its approved social networks, well you are going to be found out.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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You obviously don't have much experience with China. China is an authoritarian state and all companies are subject to secret control by the state, essentially branches of the military. There is no legal recourse or protection from such intervention. The government can mandate spy code be inserted and any data they want. You're well intended here, but ignorant of how China operates. There is literally no way to enforc…

The person you are replying to is Chinese and lives in China. Or at least their post history says so.

How many times have we had to turn to the BBC or another news source for frank discussion of a situation in the US?

You don’t always know what’s going on in your own back yard. The people who could tell you are too easy to get to.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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It appears as though very few Hacker News commenters have spent any time using Tiktok. It is the only enjoyable, enriching social media service I've ever used. Most everything many of us liked about the old/weird internet is present on Tiktok right now: almost no ads or commercial presense, personal content from real people (not hyper produced productions from influencers and pros), weird content, niche content, orga…

I'm not sure about content quality in other countries but in India it's so cringe i cant stand it for 5 minutes! (gen Z might feel otherwise).. So glad it got banned in India.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Banning something unless they/it has provabley broken US laws, merely out of spite and retaliatory motives isn't something that is acceptable in a democracy like the US. Also it appears the 'national security' threat of tik-tok seem way overhyped, it is like a country speaking of Instagram as a national security threat. Neither apple not Google has found TikTok problematic enough to pull it from their app stores. Suc…

I disagree. Trade is bilateral. If China plays dirty and bans apps left and right we should encourage them to stop doing that by retaliating, much like we do when they give state aid to their private companies (which skews the free market in their favor).

While this move seems nothing related to any ban by China on US apps.China hasn't banned any major US app within a recent window of time, so I do not think that is the impetus behind this move.

I do not buy that we should do anything by breaking our own constitutional guarantees, by letting the executive mislead the public in assuming powers that they simply do not have.

The President don't have authority to do this, and should not be having it in good sense.

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