Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action
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Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action
#2Under what authority?
A dozen paragraphs in the article and not one questioning whether he can actually do this. What would such an executive action look like? An EO to Apple and Google to de-list the app from their stores? Why should they comply?
What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere?
Sick of media treating this man like a zoo exhibit instead of the advanced persistent threat to US democracy he is.
Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action
#3Under what authority? A dozen paragraphs in the article and not one questioning whether he can actually do this. What would such an executive action look like? An EO to Apple and Google to de-list the app from their stores? Why should they comply? What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere? Sick of media treating this man like a zoo exhibit instead of the advanced persistent threat to US democrac…
China is likely considered by many to be a threat to democracy, which is part of the reasoning behind this
Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action
#4Under what authority? A dozen paragraphs in the article and not one questioning whether he can actually do this. What would such an executive action look like? An EO to Apple and Google to de-list the app from their stores? Why should they comply? What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere? Sick of media treating this man like a zoo exhibit instead of the advanced persistent threat to US democrac…
My guess: National security as in Huawei https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/15/18216988/white-house-huaw...
Let's be realistic, if an app was doing what is alleged here, they should be banned and I'm sure they are provisions to do so without a vote of Congress. Biden campaign was also told to delete TikTok from phones, maybe NSA knows something.
Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action
#5Under what authority? A dozen paragraphs in the article and not one questioning whether he can actually do this. What would such an executive action look like? An EO to Apple and Google to de-list the app from their stores? Why should they comply? What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere? Sick of media treating this man like a zoo exhibit instead of the advanced persistent threat to US democrac…
China is likely considered by many to be a threat to democracy, which is part of the reasoning behind this
Great, but that doesn't answer my question:
What authority does a US president have to tell a US-based software company to not distribute code from its US servers?
Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action
#6Under what authority? A dozen paragraphs in the article and not one questioning whether he can actually do this. What would such an executive action look like? An EO to Apple and Google to de-list the app from their stores? Why should they comply? What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere? Sick of media treating this man like a zoo exhibit instead of the advanced persistent threat to US democrac…
My guess: National security as in Huawei https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/15/18216988/white-house-huaw... Let's be realistic, if an app was doing what is alleged here, they should be banned and I'm sure they are provisions to do so without a vote of Congress. Biden campaign was also told to delete TikTok from phones, maybe NSA knows something.
> if an app was doing what is alleged here, they should be banned
Yep, I also believe that would be in violation of Google/Apple ToS and they would be happy to ban it.
> I'm sure they are provisions to do so without a vote of Congress.
I highly doubt it, and I am waiting to be shown otherwise.
Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action
#7Under what authority? A dozen paragraphs in the article and not one questioning whether he can actually do this. What would such an executive action look like? An EO to Apple and Google to de-list the app from their stores? Why should they comply? What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere? Sick of media treating this man like a zoo exhibit instead of the advanced persistent threat to US democrac…
> advanced persistent threat to US democracy
We are a Republic.
Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
China is likely considered by many to be a threat to democracy, which is part of the reasoning behind this
Great, but that doesn't answer my question: What authority does a US president have to tell a US-based software company to not distribute code from its US servers?
Tiktok is not a US-based software company, they're a private company from China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bytedance
There's been precedent set recently with e.g. Huawei: https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/15/18216988/white-house-huaw..., but also keep in mind we have dealt with much stronger things in the past: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Export_of_cryptography_from_th...
Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action
#9Under what authority? A dozen paragraphs in the article and not one questioning whether he can actually do this. What would such an executive action look like? An EO to Apple and Google to de-list the app from their stores? Why should they comply? What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere? Sick of media treating this man like a zoo exhibit instead of the advanced persistent threat to US democrac…
> What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere?
I don't think most Android users know how to install an apk, and as far as I know a similar distribution model is not possible on iOS.
Re: Trump says he will ban TikTok through executive action
#10Under what authority? A dozen paragraphs in the article and not one questioning whether he can actually do this. What would such an executive action look like? An EO to Apple and Google to de-list the app from their stores? Why should they comply? What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere? Sick of media treating this man like a zoo exhibit instead of the advanced persistent threat to US democrac…
> What's he going to do when ByteDance uploads the .apk somewhere? I don't think most Android users know how to install an apk, and as far as I know a similar distribution model is not possible on iOS.
Fortnite was a widely successful mobile application for a long time, distributed outside of the app store and with the same audience as TikTok - it's not as hard as it would seem to teach people to sideload.