The App Store is a monopoly: Here's why the EU is correct to investigate Apple

Post by Apocryphon » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 2:21 AM UTC

xvector wrote: post #470

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Rest assured that despite the somehow surprisingly recent blind support for Apple here, there are people too that want to own our devices. I can just hope that the EU is successful in stopping all of Apple's trickeries ranging from 2.5mm headset jacks, ports, OS slow downs, mysterious battery underperformance, app store, the list just goes on.

> headset jacks You want the EU to regulate whether a company wants to put a headphone jack in their devices? > OS slow downs iOS has gotten faster over time [1]. > mysterious battery underperformance It's common knowledge that this was an honest engineering mistake because as a phone ages, the battery cannot support the max voltage of the processor. Apple now lets you enable full performance with the understanding t…

Post by xvector » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 2:24 AM UTC

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What do the first two syllables in “monopoly” mean?

Mono means "one", poly means many, as in: one supplier (Apple) for many customers (iPhone users).

Post by ac29 » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 2:34 AM UTC

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The MacDonalds its not yours, while your iPhone is. There's a big difference between the two, and the key difference here is ... Property. But i like your example because its shows the mindset that the iPhone you bought, is in the end the property of Apple, not really yours, and that you are "fine with it".

You can do already do whatever you want with your phone from the point you receive it in the condition Apple sell it to you. But you cannot require that Apple do work to build support for third-party app stores. Property rights do not extend to forcing other people to do labour for you. If your phone doesn't come with support for third-party stores when you buy it then I don't see how it would be your right to have t…

Post by xvector » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 2:46 AM UTC

Apocryphon wrote: post #484

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It is honestly frightening that HN wants to give the government more power over tech after what we've seen from Australia and forced backdoors.

It is honestly frightening that HN wants to give Apple more power over tech after what we've seen from their treatment of HEY, the butterfly keyboard, and the Magic Mouse 2 port.

Post by xvector » Sat, Aug 01, 2020, 2:51 AM UTC

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> headset jacks You want the EU to regulate whether a company wants to put a headphone jack in their devices? > OS slow downs iOS has gotten faster over time [1]. > mysterious battery underperformance It's common knowledge that this was an honest engineering mistake because as a phone ages, the battery cannot support the max voltage of the processor. Apple now lets you enable full performance with the understanding t…

> You want the EU to regulate whether a company wants to put a headphone jack in their devices? > So you've suggested 4 things, 3 of which don't apply and 1 of which (headphone jacks) would be gross governmental overreach. There is precedence for the EU mandating Apple change their hardware practices: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidphelan/2020/02/11/apple-ch... > So you've suggested 4 things, 3 of which don't appl…