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Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Re: Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Is lack of attendance something that happens regularly? Can control ever be wrested from majority voting power owners? Page and Brin, Zuckerberg, et al.?

Page and Brin are not married to each other, as far as I know (which would make the shares their common property). You can always try to drive a wedge between them, have one of them turn on the other. With Zuckerberg, no, no chance.

They are both basically retired so there's not much to wedge about.

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I read the OP as a tongue in cheek thought experiment (or satire), rather than a sincere effort to subvert, cripple and destroy a multibillion dollar company by running advertisements inside their platform. As a result, I suspect that a "half-baked idea that will never amount to anything" was the author's intenion, and that your opinion probably is no more unpopular than those who doubt the chicken really wanted to g…

Based on everything I've read, it isn't an idle thought experiment at all. The artists are genuinely trying to take down Google. Check out the press links: https://www.theregister.com/2008/08/13/google_will_eat_itsel... Reading more, it actually gets even worse. Apparently the artists were using a bunch of click bots to inflate their ad revenue, and they were boasting about gaming Google's anti-fraud systems to do so…

This reminds of the Spotify thread where posters were desperately failing to comprehend what it means for a musician to be an artist.

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Unpopular opinion but this sounds like a half baked idea that will never amount to anything. Imagine some other equally silly parallels: We generate money by selling iOS apps on a network of hidden developers. With this money we automatically buy Apple shares. We buy Apple via their own app store! Apple eats itself - but in the end "we" own it! We generate money by selling goods on Amazon on a network of hidden affil…

It's clearly art lol

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I'm surprised that someone hasn't set up some kind of autonomous Etherium blockchain controlled organization that buys miners to mine more Etherium to buy more miners...

There's many incarnations (heh) of this idea in a long line of games called Singularity. e.g. https://github.com/singularity/singularity#playing-the-game

Most versions i've played were from the time before blockchain money, the AIs mostly bought servers to hack banks to buy servers...

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This question comes up a lot when people find Bitcoin wallets that haven’t been touched in nearly a decade and have millions of dollars worth of the token associated to them. Is someone just being incredibly patient?

Or lost their wallet/password

I lost a Bitcoin wallet with ~50BTC back when it was priced at pennies. I was so young then. Oh well.

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Yes, but at that time serving the Slashdot amount of traffic was actually a challenge when using standard setup. (Not impossible, you just needed to put in extra effort) These days unless you're doing something silly you should be able to handle HN front page from a raspberry pi at home.

Wait, how? Using a commercial CDN?

No, connections better than ADSL can handle the traffic on network side and as long as you're not serving huge content. And as long as you're not doing per-user content generation, your throughout is a question of "how fast can nginx serve memory cache over network". The original RPi B can do 40 rps serving a 180kB file. RPi4 can do 4k rps (https://ibug.io/blog/2019/09/raspberry-pi-4-review-benchmark...).

So surviving front page on HN for a blog post served from home connection should be trivial unless you disabled caching somewhere.

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Interesting, the page info is out of date (if it was ever a real thing) from their "how much do we own" How much do "we" own Google Google Shares owned by GWEI: 819 Amount of USD: 405.413,19 Adsense-Clicks: 1.556.361 Adsense-Page Impressions: 37.538 Adsense-CTR: 2,41% Google Ownership Counter 202.345.117 Years until GWEI fully owns Google. Google Share Price* Current Google Share Price : 495.01 USD Symbol: "GOOG" Cur…

Some people will save and invest for 40 years until they retire.

Yes, but in my experience its a spectrum. From 'always save' to 'always spend.'

One of the more interesting times of my life so far was during the dot com bubble because I got to see a lot of people suddenly feel like they had more money than they ever imagined they would. I observed that the response was always uniquely personal. From a friend who bought 737 jet, only to file bankruptcy a year later, to folks who converted things to bonds and other assets and otherwise didn't change all that much, to people who lived a life of inconvenience only to have their family inherit a huge chunk of wealth when they died.

I suspect that it would be difficult, if not impossible, to predict how someone would actually respond.

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Unpopular opinion but this sounds like a half baked idea that will never amount to anything. Imagine some other equally silly parallels: We generate money by selling iOS apps on a network of hidden developers. With this money we automatically buy Apple shares. We buy Apple via their own app store! Apple eats itself - but in the end "we" own it! We generate money by selling goods on Amazon on a network of hidden affil…

Wrong.

Conceptually, their aim was to use bots to generate traffic that results in ad revenue and then use that revenue to buy Google shares.

Google has technology that detects these patterns and flags them, and the ad revenue from flagged traffic is not paid.

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Based on everything I've read, it isn't an idle thought experiment at all. The artists are genuinely trying to take down Google. Check out the press links: https://www.theregister.com/2008/08/13/google_will_eat_itsel... Reading more, it actually gets even worse. Apparently the artists were using a bunch of click bots to inflate their ad revenue, and they were boasting about gaming Google's anti-fraud systems to do so…

This reminds of the Spotify thread where posters were desperately failing to comprehend what it means for a musician to be an artist.

I'm not familiar with that thread. Care to elaborate?

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I sure do. As a small web hosting provider AtlantaWebHost.com it was one of our proudest moments when our FreeBSD servers handled the Slackdot effect without complaint. This was the Pentium 3 Dell PowerEdge server era. I am no longer affiliated with AtlantaWebHost.com. The company was bought in 2005 and is still running as a boutique provider. To this day, I'm still pretty handy with crimping ethernet cables :-) I mo…

> the Slackdot effect Supposing this was a typo, I'll trade you for one "rear window defrogger" and half a "string loaded door".

Hahaha! You caught me. Didn't even notice that slip :-)
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