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Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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The way in which Spotify (and other streaming services) hurts the development of music isn’t what most people say. The problem with per-stream plays is that it is based on pop music logic: more streams equals more money. Fair! But many recording artists made a modest living by releasing music that you might not want to listen to over and over and over. This music is often labeled ‘art’ or ‘experimental’ or whatever,…

Bandcamp?

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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I used to work in the music industry professionally, on the ground level doing booking and management. This trend has been happening slowly for nearly a decade but it’s finally here. Rap and Hip Hop figured out a long time before most other genres that rapid small releases was a far better way to keep hype and sales up. Before Spotify was a thing, the shift was happening with YouTube but it wasn’t as predominant. Now…

So basically musicians are SOL now that touring isn't a realistic possibility. Nice.

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

#643

I used to work in the music industry professionally, on the ground level doing booking and management. This trend has been happening slowly for nearly a decade but it’s finally here. Rap and Hip Hop figured out a long time before most other genres that rapid small releases was a far better way to keep hype and sales up. Before Spotify was a thing, the shift was happening with YouTube but it wasn’t as predominant. Now…

https://www.abc.net.au/doublej/featured-music/feature-albums...

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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I'm a musician. But I will never make music like that. Also I will never use Daniel Ek's platform, unless I just by pure chance become one of the biggest out there, which I doubt. But then I don't make music for a living, and nor would I want to–especially in this day and age–despite a lot of folks telling me that I probably should.

The question then becomes, when I already know other valuable professions, why would I want to? Then the income would have to rival the other work I can do. I mean, I do get more pleasure from making music, but only because I don't overdo it. Work, on the other hand, is work. If I made music into work, I'm not sure I'd like it anymore. So then whatever I produce is intermittent.

But, if I wanted to make music a secondary activity, that doesn't need to be my main source of income, then yeah, I'd probably keep pushing music to places like Bandcamp. And I guess that's the beauty of it, because now there finally is a niche for us who don't want to be slaves to the art. Or to Ek's platform. So while Ek makes these outrageous claims, I'll be doing something completely different. And when I do decide to make love to my guitar, the music that comes out of it, will be a love child, and not the work of a mindless slave.

This is why I think "working musicians" never have to become slaves of the stupid and oppressive ideas of people like Ek. I just don't buy into that crap. There's a market. And that market has alternatives that also works for us who "just" want to release stuff intermittently. In fact I don't even use his platform to listen to music. Why, when there are so many great alternatives, that are also much more fair to the creators? (I guess an Ek fanboi downvoted. Hey if you've got something to say, say it, coward!)

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

#645

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Agreed, not just the monetization scheme but Spotify and others just push the music listening experience to playlists and singles and have very little room for albums and collecting a library of music you refer to.

I’m not a music aficionado, and I have no interest in albums. I love the singles/playlist format, and consume far more music now that I can easily ignore the 9 out of 10 songs I don’t like in an album (back when CDs were still a thing). I also find it easy to have a library of singles that I like.

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Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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I dont know why people listen to artists who can't put out reasonably consistent music. If only 10% of an artists output is not garbage, are they any good at all? Reviews for metal bands will trash albums that only have 1 or 2 good songs.

Because music isn't plain engineering. Some artists have one piece that is great for a wide audience and all of their other stuff is only for select listeners.(aka one hit wonders) If you only listened to people who release consistently good music - you'd listen to 10 artists in total(or something like that).

No, only vapid pop music follows that one-hit-wonder blueprint. In almost every other genre the expectation is that a great album will be consistently great.

Sorry that you know of only ten decent bands, when there are actually tens of thousands of artists that never add filler to their albums.

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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I used to work in the music industry professionally, on the ground level doing booking and management. This trend has been happening slowly for nearly a decade but it’s finally here. Rap and Hip Hop figured out a long time before most other genres that rapid small releases was a far better way to keep hype and sales up. Before Spotify was a thing, the shift was happening with YouTube but it wasn’t as predominant. Now…

This is very true. One of the first artists I noticed doing this was a rapper, Curren$y. All the mixtapes were free on Datpiff.com (major throwback) and the tours / Merch were the $$$ makers. This also allowed artists to go fully independent and keep all their profits. Added into the mix now are independent vinyl / cd / tape makers who the artists partner with on Physical music releases. Yes, physicals are back in a…

The Dave Matthews Band had a very permissive bootleg policy (bootlegs are fine, we'll even help you place microphones for the best quality, you just can't sell the bootlegs) which was important to the early popularity of the band.

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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Why would you listen to someone who puts out garbage albums?

I guess this is one of those cases where the question sounded better in your head :-) You will probably go "duh!" after you read my answer. First of all, I don't listen to albums, I listen to songs. Secondly, greatness is hard to achieve and even harder to maintain. Listening just to songs as part of great albums composed of only great songs would mean that I would not listen to a lot of great songs, because in many…

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Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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Frustrating, but unsurprising. I look at electronic musicians online and you can see that - 15 years ago they'd drop one album every few years and it would be wall-to-wall perfection. Now they drop multiple albums per year and it's mostly... okay.

YouTube did the same thing to video content. The internet drives everything to the lowest common denominator.

Re: Spotify CEO: musicians can no longer release music only “once every 3-4 years”

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You can listen to the songs on bandcamp before buying it.

I didn't make it clear. I wouldn't buy "your band's" album, even if I could listen to it right before buying it. I don't have the time to listen to 30 minutes of audio without being hooked onto it first. One unknown song in my Google Music or Soundcloud auto-playlist may get me hooked... But you need to build a desire to buy the album beforehand. I don't think I'm the only person like that, btw.

Artists can choose what song plays first on an album on Bandcamp.
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