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Glucosamine Supplementation Reduces All-Cause Mortality: Study

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Re: Glucosamine Supplementation Reduces All-Cause Mortality: Study

#91
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I've been supplementing glucosamine along with a large amount of other things for awhile now. I'm not too bullish on it in humans, but it doesn't seem like it hurts, and is definitely cheap: https://nearcyan.com/supplements My latest favorites that I'm a bit more hopeful for are glycine, spermadine, and rapamycin.

Interesting you take rapamycin and a bunch of other stuff thats supposed to extend lifespan. I wish to see if you live longer but I'll probably die first lol.

Serious questions: have you experimented with calorie restriction? Clearly thats THE method that works in every species. Second question: do you battle with depression? My current hypothesis is that any life extending drug will also inevitably lead to depression given the links shown between the sirt1 pathway and depression (also potentially as an evolutionary check but that's just me throwing ideas out).

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#92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you read the paper? They adjust for damn near everything including reverse causation. What confounders do you believe the UK biobank data can't account for?

It doesn't matter if you eliminate 10 million confounds. No matter how good your correlation study is, it cannot establish a causation. To do that you need random assignment at the very least.

... and even that gives you the wrong answer if your diagnostic specificity is faulty.

This last is why we keep seeing muddled reports that "antidepressants don't work". Diagnosis of "depression" is a snakepit; the only known way to discern which among at least six conditions you might have, all labeled "depression", is to see what medications work, if any. Imagine trying to conduct a plausible RCT for that.

"Gold standard"? Ha.

Re: Glucosamine Supplementation Reduces All-Cause Mortality: Study

#93

Is it a simple case of pain-free joints enabling one to exercise more?

Every time you move, the body releases adrenaline, so you are not far wrong in your line of thought. The adrenal glands produces around 180 different hormones including adrenaline, so protecting or even attempting to improve their function would be a logical natural pain killing route to take. Hint they are layer upon layer of epithelial cells. Of course other factors like the body attacking itself is also a problem which the adrenal glands alone cant "fix", for example too much sodium increases the Th17 cells to the point they start attacking the body. T cells from Thymus, B cells from bone marrow. However considering civilisations & Religions have existed for over 10,000years dating back to Sumerian times, observation was the only "scientific" methods available at the time, and Religions had to keep their followers healthy for the next attack, so looking into different religious fasting methods could also improve health outcomes. The world record for a water only fast, still in the Guinness book of world records is 382days, carried out in 1971 at the University of Dundee. Having done an 18day water only fast myself and felt like a teenager again, I'd highly recommend investigating it to others. A US movement in the 1950's called the Hygienists and Shelton were big advocates. Also consider the immune system attacks the food we eat, so as our immune cell count falls during a fast, are there still more immune cells now working solely removing damaged cells from the body? Its suggested viruses need carbs as noted by the use of the Keto BCAA Lysine for Cold Sores, bacteria builds biofilms when they go dormant in the body but are not impenetrable to the attacking immune system either. So there seems to be some merit with a water only fast for some, however sudden death is a risk to those with undiagnosed conditions, a bit like we see with some seemingly healthy people dying of covid. Either way, the human body, in fact any lifeform is an extremely complex biochemical and electrical real time puzzle where many chemicals play their part in lengthening life spans or shortening life spans. I wouldnt bet my life on just one supplement, unlike Linus Pauling and Vit C, its effects like all supplements, need to be put in context in the scheme of things keeping us alive, healthy and happy.

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All-Cause Mortality? Is it make you also somehow immune to fire arms for example? Just the title makes the article to view unserious.

Statistically perhaps? I.e. there surely are chemicals and infections which make you more, hmmm, adventurous. Perhaps it might make you more careful and less likely to get shot.

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#96
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If you are interested in digging into this stuff, and what really works medically/scientifically based on reviewed evidence and sources such as Cochrane Reviews, I can't recommend Dr Stanfields youtube channel high enough: https://www.youtube.com/c/DrBradStanfield/videos Also here is his video on Sulforaphane which Glucosamine activates. He goes into detail as to how this mechanism works. Because of his video/latest…

Thank you for a very curious channel, I'm going to watch it all. Why does the doctor look so weird anyway? I mean his eyes - sort of a crazy gaze. Isn't he blind or something? Or is that an effect of a medication he takes?

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#97
post #94

All-Cause Mortality? Is it make you also somehow immune to fire arms for example? Just the title makes the article to view unserious.

>Is it make you also somehow immune to fire arms for example?

No, you have to start off with daily injections of small arms fires (think .22 caliber) in order to begin building immunity. Over time you gain immunity and then can work your way up to larger calibers.

Re: Glucosamine Supplementation Reduces All-Cause Mortality: Study

#99
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I've given glucosamine to my dogs for years, and I can clearly notice a difference in their joint health and how stiff and sore they are after long runs ('long-run': 15-25 miles, measured on GPS collars). When I run out of glucosamine, or just drop off of giving it to them for whatever reason, I see them fall back pretty quickly. And when I restart them on it, I notice a response in a few days. I also give give them…

This matches glucosamine's effect on me pretty well. I have a genetic joint condition that makes any repetitive motion cause damage and pain. Glucosamine (4500mg/day) is provably the one thing that lets me have a normal career (carefully chosen job still). If I stop taking it for a few days, that's a problem. I stepped up to that dosage, noticing clear improvements a week or so after each increase.

I couldn't run 15 miles though! Walking 1km is risky even on a good day, even with glucosamine.

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#100
post #55

If you are interested in digging into this stuff, and what really works medically/scientifically based on reviewed evidence and sources such as Cochrane Reviews, I can't recommend Dr Stanfields youtube channel high enough: https://www.youtube.com/c/DrBradStanfield/videos Also here is his video on Sulforaphane which Glucosamine activates. He goes into detail as to how this mechanism works. Because of his video/latest…

Interesting, I've just used examine.com in the past. It's pretty reliable/decent and lower friction than a YT channel. Here is what Examine has on Glucosamine:

https://examine.com/supplements/glucosamine/

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