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Do you know anybody willing to pay over $150,000 for temporary access to Obama’s twitter account? I find this type of comment kind of naive and poorly thought out. Just because you’re a hacker doesn’t mean you know how to sell secrets to Russia, and trying to establish lines of communication like that are probably going to raise red flags with law enforcement. To be fair, the strategy of scamming for bitcoin was craz…

Cue the entire movie "Burn after reading." Kid had the whole attention of the world for a few minutes, could've walked away a billionaire, start WW3, casino royale stock trading - everything, anything - CREATIVELY there's so much that could've been done and it all fell down to a bitcoin scam that netted less that 150K (wallet shows about 128k.) That's a yearly salary of a help desk engineer on the west coast. --I'm n…

you cannot start world war 3 or become a billionaire through some tweets, this is not a movie.

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> Today’s announcement proves that cybercriminals can no longer hide behind perceived global anonymity Anyone know what the loose end was that got these guys busted?

I just read one of the complaints, against the 22 year old "Rolex". It's not so much loose ends as loose everything. He didn't use a VPN or anything to mask his home IP, he discussed the hack on Discord, an unencrypted third-party platform, and reused a gmail address for the hack that he also used for a Coinbase account. Said Coinbase account being verified with his driver's license... I shouldn't be too surprised, b…

I don't know, tbh I'm still surprised.

The Discord connection was known early on. I was really surprised anyone would do something like this and communicate over Discord about it.

The fact that no VPN/Tor were involved, the fact that Gmail was involved... that's really crazy. It's hard to tell when being dumb ends and being self destructive begins?

Is it possible to be this ignorant about the Internet while perpetrating something so big?

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i was assured by the cybersecurity experts of hacker news that REALLY this was all a mastermind ploy to steal and sell twitter DMs. who would they sell them to? doesn't matter! what information of actual value is sent through twitter DMs? doesn't matter! we did it, hacker news.

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From memory, I recall the FBI did a study, and found that half of their employees would plug in a USB drive that they found on the ground in the parking lot. After training, that number was reduced to a quarter. If a security-focused government police agency is so vulnerable, it is unreasonable to expect perfection from a (less paranoid) company.

Then you need processes in place to make sure a single person being careless cant do this much damage. There are low tech solutions that would greatly improve security[1], however the overhead this introduces is hard to justify in a world in which these breaches aren't that damaging to a company. We need to change incentives for companies by either mandating these security practices or implementing harmful repercussi…

I agree that better security practices are advisable, but you're victim-blaming.

Twitter wasn't 'asking for it', and neither were the individuals who lost bitcoins; the 'hackers' intentionally perpetrated deceptions, misrepresentations, and fraud against both Twitter and the general public. If you compare what these three did to a white-collar crime, the dollar amount was small, but the behavior was egregious.

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> Washington DC Field Office Cyber Crimes Unit analyzed the blockchain and de-anonymized bitcoin transactions allowing for the identification of two different hackers. Anyone with Bitcoin Transaction knowledge, what's this de-anonymization of Bitcoins transaction? >Today’s announcement proves that cybercriminals can no longer hide behind perceived global anonymity,” said Thomas Edwards, Special Agent in Charge, U.S.…

This is what bugs me the most about the bitcoin pushers (like Max Keiser)... they completely ignore the fact that bitcoin is not anonymous, and why even though I was in on bitcoin in the earliest days, I abandoned it. My conclusion was that the government loves btc because it's so easily traceable. Another reason is that, like tor, it is vulnerable to %50 attacks. If the central banks wanted to take over btc they could, and I posit they may have already positioned themselves as such. (thats my almost a bitcoin millionaire story...)

The closest to an anonymous coin afaik is monero or zcash, but in general I think wasting electricity and cpu cycles on arbitrary math is a bad path to go down. If we could tie a coin to some productive math like protein folding or seti, etc, that still has the same attributes as cash (which btc does not) then we might have a true potential dollar replacement digital coin, but I digress.

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Trying to paint this 17-year old kid as a criminal mastermind strikes me as rather gross. I can see it as a kid doing it to see if he could, and using an obviously meme-worthy fake post that got out of hand. I think everyone has done some dumb things at this age without thinking about the consequences. If that is the case here, I hope this doesn't ruin the guys life.

Would you advocate leniency this forcefully for a 17 year old teenager of color who was charged with committing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of property theft (e.g. stealing expensive cars)? Or do you want this kid to receive special treatment just because you identify with his demographic? Presumably you were also once a tech-savvy teenage hacker at some point.

People with your mindset are responsible for a lot of the inequity in the criminal justice system. Upper middle class suburban white kids (e.g. Brock Turner) get away with slaps on the wrist all the time for the same crimes that poor and minority teenagers get sent to prison for years over, because judges (who were almost all previously upper middle class white suburban kids themselves) feel sorry for them and chalk their crimes down to kids being kids.

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I have an unrealistic idea (more of a thought experiment) that companies should face equal culpability to criminal hackers in attacks. After all, technically the way the hackers use systems /is/ authorized in a sense, even if the method of obtaining authorization is unconventional. Maybe this would get companies to pay more attention to securing their systems. From a certain perspective, Twitter is an accomplice to f…

accomplice means they knowingly aided in the fraud or profited from it. Being caught off guard is not a crime. The culpability is the reputation damage from being hacked.

>Being caught off guard is not a crime

It can be. Twitter could be found criminally negligent if they knew the risk of this type of attack (or it was obvious) but chose to ignore it.

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I have an unrealistic idea (more of a thought experiment) that companies should face equal culpability to criminal hackers in attacks. After all, technically the way the hackers use systems /is/ authorized in a sense, even if the method of obtaining authorization is unconventional. Maybe this would get companies to pay more attention to securing their systems. From a certain perspective, Twitter is an accomplice to f…

Should we make homeowners equally criminally liable when burglars break in? Certainly if the homeowner had been less lax or obtained more security, that burglary could have been prevented.

Bad analogy: the only victim of a home invasion is the home owner.

In the Twitter case, the victim were the users.

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I personally lost $6000 dollars, is there any way I could prove that I was a victim and get my crypto back?

I think it's unlikely you will get any recourse here. However what you can do is the following.

1) Find one of the input addresses for the transaction(s) you sent to the scammers

2) Use that address to sign a message like "alexander1100 owns this address" (but use your legal name) to prove ownership of the address.

3) Attempt to follow up with the FBI about recovering your lost funds. This is the step that you will have the most trouble with.

Good luck.

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