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This is like complaining that it's unfair that only McDonald's are allowed to sell inside a McDonald's.
More appropriate analogy: Let say Apple is BMW, and when you buy BMW your gas tank has a proprietary connector that will work only on BP gas stations. You can choose different gas there (different octane number, etc.), but you can't tank at e.g. Statoil.
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> I am 100% in favor of the way run the app store You want Apple to prohibit the apps you use from being allowed to tell you about alternative payment options?
Yes, because I want to be continue to recommend Apple products to friends and family who would definitely be scammed by fake payment mechanisms if Apple wasn’t preventing it.
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There are thousands of different restaurants to choose from. There are only two pocket computers. And they're both beating people up over protection money. Moreover, computing used to be free like water. These companies locked it down so you have to go through them. Imagine if you had to pay McDonald's to open your own restaurant. Imagine if every restaurant in the US had to do so. Imagine if McDonald's gathered data…
> There are only two pocket computers. There are thousands of powerful smartphones on the market, from many different companies and even countries. > It's not okay. I'm okay with it.
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There are thousands of different restaurants to choose from. There are only two pocket computers. And they're both beating people up over protection money. Moreover, computing used to be free like water. These companies locked it down so you have to go through them. Imagine if you had to pay McDonald's to open your own restaurant. Imagine if every restaurant in the US had to do so. Imagine if McDonald's gathered data…
> There are only two pocket computers. There are thousands of powerful smartphones on the market, from many different companies and even countries. > It's not okay. I'm okay with it.
There are only 2 major OS's.
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There are thousands of different restaurants to choose from. There are only two pocket computers. And they're both beating people up over protection money. Moreover, computing used to be free like water. These companies locked it down so you have to go through them. Imagine if you had to pay McDonald's to open your own restaurant. Imagine if every restaurant in the US had to do so. Imagine if McDonald's gathered data…
> There are only two pocket computers. There are thousands of powerful smartphones on the market, from many different companies and even countries. > It's not okay. I'm okay with it.
You're being deceptive here. Apple App Store and Google Play Store are what we are talking about. There aren't many other avenues that can reach consumers.
> I'm okay with it.
You're okay with me having to pay hard earned money to Apple and Google? Having to work that much harder? To be unable to afford to lean into scaling? Because that's awful.
Fuck that.
These companies are anti-entrepreneur.
As a consumer, I am 100% in favor of the way run the app store. I don't want to give random apps my credit card. I don't want to have 18 accounts to keep track of. I don't want to have to call telephone support to cancel my account. I don't want malware in my apps. I don't want apps to have my email if they don't need it. I don't need another middleman for content companies license and distribute. Everything Apple is…
It's not like someone will force you paying without your consent. If you don't want to give random apps your credit card, don't give it to them. Why do you oppose other people's right to do that, if they need it?
If they’re forced to open up to 3rd party stores, I hope they can do it in a way that prevents Adobe from running 8 background processes to make sure my license is current and there aren’t any font updates to download and to make Reader launch faster by keeping it in memory all the time, or whatever it is they do with their Creative Cloud client stuff.
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It's my phone, and I can do whatever I want with it. If Apple doesn't like that, they can easily maintain ownership by not selling the device. I don't force Apple to sell iPhones instead of leaving them in a warehouse. Once I've bought it, it is mine. The entire idea that Apple can do whatever they want on a device that they have already sold is ludicrous.
You can already do whatever you want with your device. Use it as a hammer for all Apple care. It's just that Apple aren't going to spend their time and money developing software to let you do things they aren't interested in. Why should they?
They are spending time and money to prevent that. Or you can create an app store as an app and expect Apple to allow your "app store app" to ship in iPhones? The features are already there in the OS, they use them themselves. They dont need to do anything more.. but instead they work to cripple or prevent others from using it.
This is in essence the spirit of a monopoly.
Ok you personally dont mind for whatever reasons, but there a lot of other harms to the society and civil rights in general going on here. And that was the reason countries and laws exists.. To prevent people or companies in position of power to abuse their power.
As a consumer, I am 100% in favor of the way run the app store. I don't want to give random apps my credit card. I don't want to have 18 accounts to keep track of. I don't want to have to call telephone support to cancel my account. I don't want malware in my apps. I don't want apps to have my email if they don't need it. I don't need another middleman for content companies license and distribute. Everything Apple is…
This is not pro-consumer behaviour. This is pro-Apple behaviour. They enjoy the lock in + fees that the app store generates. They're even stifling web apps to maintain this monopoly. If they were so pro-consumer, why do they allow spyware such as Tiktok to exist on their platform at all?
That only affects the developer, not the consumer. What does the consumer care about who gets paid the fees.
I keep seeing the App Store framed as a consumer issue rather than a developer one when it's not. The App Store is no question pro-consumer especially when you consider the fact that the "open" web has essentially devolved into using every available toolkit to track users across the web.
I'm not at all interested in giving Facebook yet another platform where they can run amok with native hardware. I'm not interested in cleaning off Bonzai Buddy off my parents and friends phones.
If you purchase the hardware for the product, no company should be able to stop you from installing whatever you like on the product.
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Well they can do all that with a 10% fee too. The author is contending that by adding those restrictions and a high 30% fee, Apple is acting like a monopoly - it's their way or the highway.
What evidence do you have that a 10% fee is enough to operate the App Store at the scale Apple does? When the App Store was launched, Steve Jobs said they plan to run it at break-even, no profit, and for quite a few years that was exactly what they did. Now they are profiting from the App Store and clearly could continue to run it as they do on a lower percentage, but I don't think 10% is that number. If they could r…