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Re: Why TechCrunch is over

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I can't really say if TechCrunch is 'over' (and here I thought 'over' was over (props to Portlandia)), but I can say that artificial viral marketing is a very strange thing indeed. Reading TechCrunch stories always gives me a feel for who is maneuvering and who isn't, and as with most blogs it seems there is a certain 'shadows on the wall of the cave' kind of aspect to it.

As an entrepreneur, do you think it helps or hinders your efforts to be "exposed" by a widely read blog? As a VC/Angel is this where you look for insights into the 'next big thing' ? And what of Peter Yared or other folks who write articles and give them away from free to various outlets like BusinessWeek, AdWeek, CNet, and others?

One of the things this article illustrates is that the Bay Area, and technology in general, is taking its lead from "Hollywood" rather than from say "Detroit" or "Pittsburgh". Why the star culture? Why the hype? Does Lindsay Lohan look like someone having fun? (I don't know but it doesn't look like it to me).

Arrington appears to enjoy lightning rod status, and while he sometimes whines loudly about getting wet he must be getting something out of going into the storm. I'm curious about the larger question about what it means.

It used to be that presenting at Usenix was "cool" and presenting as Uniforum was a "cop out." Why don't we have more of the 'serious' conferences any more? More questions than answers that is for sure.

Re: Why TechCrunch is over

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post #51
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How about ignoring the tiresome commentators, and the tiresome commentators complaining about other tiresome commentators.

It's time to write your own blog post called "Why You Should Not Think That TechCrunch Is Not Over And Also How I Built A Successful Startup" and then submit it to hackernews under your own account. :)

*How TechCrunch Is Not Over Is Over Launched After 24 Hours With 24K Users :)

Re: Why TechCrunch is over

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post #6

I found this quote to be pretty good: "If it was not for MG Siegler (Apple fanboyism aside) and Erick Schonfeld, TechCrunch would be a content-free environment. The rest of the writing has become incredibly self-referential and stale. Paul Carr has the magical ability to consistently write articles that say nothing other than what he did yesterday. Sarah Lacy keeps writing about startups in Indonesia that no one care…

It's weird that TechCrunch picked up Alexia Tsosis. She's totally clueless about technology and all she ever writes about is Twitter hype and Angry Birds news.

Re: Why TechCrunch is over

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"... There are a few different types of blogger. Those who don't get access to stories and rely on press releases, generally boring. Then there are those who get access to information, but refuse to post about it for fear of pissing somebody off, just as boring and probably worse than the first type. Then there is the type of blogger who gets access to information, and has no problem stepping on toes to get the infor…

Still the same type - or are you asking why Techcrunch didn't cover a story from Valleywag? I marked Omnidrive as deadpool in CrunchBase, and it isn't uncommon for Techcrunch to not cover a story that has been covered elsewhere, esp since Mike was an investor and was wary of conflicts

"... I marked Omnidrive as deadpool in CrunchBase, and it isn't uncommon for Techcrunch to not cover a story that has been covered elsewhere, esp since Mike was an investor and was wary of conflicts ..."

My tone is skeptical Nik because I read stories, information and posts with my BS detection at maximum when I detect ambiguity.

I'm interested in ambiguous stories because it's possible to find in them both the truth but sometimes non-truths. Take for instance a story which I posted on HN 3 years ago, "The Google Way: Give Engineers Room". [0] I posted the story because it was interesting. But it took a fellow HN'r Karzeem [1] to suggest something wasn't quite right. You can read the post for yourself. I wasn't thinking Google is bad or looking for subterfuge by the New York times. But that's what we got. I emailed the New York times for clarification and it turns out because the story was in fact a "Submarine". A plant by Google and the Times to make Google appear a great place to work in the guise of an interview. Except it wasn't. You can read it yourself on HN.[2] karzeem and myself agreed this was a great article not because of the content, but because it exposed the mechanism the Times could paid placement as stories by hiding it in the Fashion section (not the hard news section) and how Google positions itself.

The story behind the closure of Omnidrive is ambiguous.

I first picked up the inconsistencies when an article in a conservative local business magazine, BRW mentions Omnidrive not only in the top 100 Web 2.0 companies in Australia, but in the top 50.[3] How could this be? Omnidrive for all intensive purposes was in the deadpool? So I contacted Renai LeMay a local journalist who worked at ZD Net to ask, "why was Omnidrive inclused?". His reply Omnidrive was active. Timing matters here. I asked LeMay in 2008JUL08 but the deadpool lists Omnidrive as "officially closed in September of 2008" [4][5][6] Which is it? The duplicity makes me think the ambiguity was for a reason. It might not be, but I'm suspicious. Is it possible in the ambiguity in this story was used as a smoke screen for other reasons?

    As the major investor in Omnidrive I am stunned not to have received any 
    information from Nik on what’s been happening over the last few months. 
    I have emailed him a number of times, but have not had a single reply. 
    The last I heard he was flying around the world, after launching 
    Techcrunch IT, and also building the Techcrunch tablet for Michael 
    Arrington. [7]
I'll let you, the reader ponder the reasons for ambiguity by pointing you to Clay Cook, a fellow Australian and ex-angel.[8] I follow through with stories like the closure of Omnidrive, not because I have any particular interest in Omnidrive or (you) Nik, but for reasons of clarity. If I read a story with a degree ambiguity, I like the clarify the reasons why, to analyse and understand. If a statement is made, test for it's validity against what I know. Will it stand up to a degree of scrutiny? I like follow-up posts like this because I think it's a good real-life lesson for fellow HN's to not take information at face value. Startups are by their nature complex but fragile things that constantly fall over and fail.

    Lesson: Your investors are here to help you, keep them informed 
            and you have a much higher likelihood of receiving help. [9]
They are run by optimistic, risk taking individuals who like take charge with technology, who value making new things and maybe, just maybe short circuit the "money-problem". The trip from technologist to entrepreneur to successful entrepreneur is complex and requires many skills, technical and personal. I think the most important skill to foster is to "be-good".

"Be good", not to be virtuous, be good because the algorythm is stateless and as a strategy, it works. [10]

Reference

[0] Bharat Mediratta, Julie Bick, "The Google Way: Give Engineers Room"

[Accessed Sunday 3rd April, 2011]

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=70827

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/2913315731/

[1] karzeem, HackerNews

[Accessed Sunday 3rd April, 2011]

http://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=karzeem

[2] "The Google Way: Give Engineers Room", et.al.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=70827

[3] "Official launch of the Top 100 Australian Web 2.0 Applications list"

[Accessed Sunday 3rd April, 2011]

http://rossdawsonblog.com/weblog/archives/2008/06 /official_launch.html

[4] Where I (@bootload) ask "@renailemay how did Omnidrive make the list? ~ http://tinyurl.com/6f3cx8*

[Accessed Sunday 3rd April, 2011]

https://twitter.com/#!/bootload/statuses/850502396

[5] and @renailemay replies "@bootload omnidrive is still functioning"*

[Accessed Sunday 3rd April, 2011]

https://twitter.com/#!/renailemay/statuses/850550575

[6] At a later point Ross Dawson a blogger who noted the top 100 in the BRW article also chimed in with some more detail, "At the time that the list was compiled Omnidrive was still functioning, so merited being on the list pending further notice. ... And yes, it certainly does appear to have died now... ".

[Accessed Sunday 3rd April, 2011]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bootload/2913315731/

[7] Clay Cook, "Nik Cubrilovic Omnidrive lesson",

[Accessed Sunday 3rd April, 2011]

http://www.claycook.net/2008/10/16/nik-cubrilovic-omnidrive-...

[8] Clay Cook, "My experience investing in Nik Cubrilovic..."

[Accessed Sunday 3rd April, 2011]

http://www.gooruze.com/members/claycook/blog/119381/My-exper...

[9] Clay Cook, "Nik Cubrilovic Omnidrive lesson", et.,al.

[Accessed Sunday 3rd April, 2011]

http://www.claycook.net/2008/10/16/nik-cubrilovic-omnidrive-...

[10] Paul Graham, Be Good, last paragraph, "Compass"

[Accessed Sunday 3rd April, 2011]

http://paulgraham.com/good.html

Re: Why TechCrunch is over

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post #41

Alexa shows something similar, but it's pretty noisy: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/techcrunch.com# I don't think the content has changed much, and TC is still my preferred "big tech blog". But FB comments decreased my visiting quite a bit. I used to comment with Disqus quite frequently. Trolling is down, but the comments are less interesting. Think about what would happen to HN if we used FB profiles. Comments are v…

Totally agree. I couldn't believe that TC decided to put the comments system (the only reason visit TC) in a walled garden that is Facebook. I myself have all FB widgets blocked at my proxy so it took me a while to realize why there were no comments when I clicked through.

Delegating the primary form of participation on your site to an outside firm strikes me as a bad idea. Maybe Facebook is paying TC to use their system?

Re: Why TechCrunch is over

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still the same type - or are you asking why Techcrunch didn't cover a story from Valleywag? I marked Omnidrive as deadpool in CrunchBase, and it isn't uncommon for Techcrunch to not cover a story that has been covered elsewhere, esp since Mike was an investor and was wary of conflicts

"... I marked Omnidrive as deadpool in CrunchBase, and it isn't uncommon for Techcrunch to not cover a story that has been covered elsewhere, esp since Mike was an investor and was wary of conflicts ..." My tone is skeptical Nik because I read stories, information and posts with my BS detection at maximum when I detect ambiguity. I'm interested in ambiguous stories because it's possible to find in them both the truth…

I appreciate the work you put into your post, but I can't help but point out that it's "all intent[s] and purposes" not "all intensive purposes." Apologies for the snark.

Re: Why TechCrunch is over

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still the same type - or are you asking why Techcrunch didn't cover a story from Valleywag? I marked Omnidrive as deadpool in CrunchBase, and it isn't uncommon for Techcrunch to not cover a story that has been covered elsewhere, esp since Mike was an investor and was wary of conflicts

"... I marked Omnidrive as deadpool in CrunchBase, and it isn't uncommon for Techcrunch to not cover a story that has been covered elsewhere, esp since Mike was an investor and was wary of conflicts ..." My tone is skeptical Nik because I read stories, information and posts with my BS detection at maximum when I detect ambiguity. I'm interested in ambiguous stories because it's possible to find in them both the truth…

just want you to know that I have seen this - going to reply to it later today when I have a moment to read through it all!

Re: Why TechCrunch is over

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post #6

I found this quote to be pretty good: "If it was not for MG Siegler (Apple fanboyism aside) and Erick Schonfeld, TechCrunch would be a content-free environment. The rest of the writing has become incredibly self-referential and stale. Paul Carr has the magical ability to consistently write articles that say nothing other than what he did yesterday. Sarah Lacy keeps writing about startups in Indonesia that no one care…

Yeah sometimes i feel TechCrunch is biased. I am not comfortable with people who write news on behalf of some company. We expect them to write the real news rather than supporting some and reprimanding others.

Then you need to readjust your expectations from false idealism to Mike's reality.

Re: Why TechCrunch is over

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post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah sometimes i feel TechCrunch is biased. I am not comfortable with people who write news on behalf of some company. We expect them to write the real news rather than supporting some and reprimanding others.

Then you need to readjust your expectations from false idealism to Mike's reality.

Yeah, i am in verge of adjusting my expectations.

Re: Why TechCrunch is over

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"... I marked Omnidrive as deadpool in CrunchBase, and it isn't uncommon for Techcrunch to not cover a story that has been covered elsewhere, esp since Mike was an investor and was wary of conflicts ..." My tone is skeptical Nik because I read stories, information and posts with my BS detection at maximum when I detect ambiguity. I'm interested in ambiguous stories because it's possible to find in them both the truth…

I appreciate the work you put into your post, but I can't help but point out that it's "all intent[s] and purposes" not "all intensive purposes." Apologies for the snark.

"... "all intent[s] and purposes" not "all intensive purposes." Apologies for the snark. ..."

None taken. I like the corrections, thanks.

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