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The problem isn't how they run their store -- the problem is that they are the only store.
For many of us that is a feature, not a problem.
And the "feature" is what, exactly?
The App Store is a monopoly: Here's why the EU is correct to investigate Apple
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Re: The App Store is a monopoly: Here's why the EU is correct to investigate Apple
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
The problem isn't how they run their store -- the problem is that they are the only store.
For many of us that is a feature, not a problem.
I've seen many things described as a feature but platform monopoly is a new one, unless 'many of us' in this case means 'Apple shareholder'
Re: The App Store is a monopoly: Here's why the EU is correct to investigate Apple
#63Genuine question: Why does this matter? I see 0 problems with Apple having a "walled garden." It's their product and their platform so they should be able to decide what gets supported and developed for it.
I personally don't like how Apple conducts their business so I just don't use Apple products and that's that.
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#64As a consumer, I am 100% in favor of the way run the app store. I don't want to give random apps my credit card. I don't want to have 18 accounts to keep track of. I don't want to have to call telephone support to cancel my account. I don't want malware in my apps. I don't want apps to have my email if they don't need it. I don't need another middleman for content companies license and distribute. Everything Apple is…
Well they can do all that with a 10% fee too. The author is contending that by adding those restrictions and a high 30% fee, Apple is acting like a monopoly - it's their way or the highway.
This is their platform... maybe the gov can make this a legal monopoly like the NFL. And, everyone gets the same % rate, same rules, and no apple competition in apps. Same for Google...
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The problem isn't how they run their store -- the problem is that they are the only store.
It's their product and they can do whatever they want with it. If anyone doesn't like that, they can easily not purchase iDevices. Apple doesn't force people to buy their products.
Microsoft didn't force people to buy Windows, "all" they did was install IE by default and they got done for that. Precedent disagrees with you.
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#66Apple had the opportunity to lean on the web and elected not to. With appropriate APIs, web apps can reach into devices and leverage GPU and CPU compute, multiple threads, microphone, camera, on-device storage, and more. HTML and canvas don't have to be the only UI primitives available. Both Google and Apple should be forced to fund the W3C and/or Mozilla in leading development of a cross-platform native experience.…
> Both Google and Apple should be forced to fund the W3C and/or Mozilla in leading development of a cross-platform native experience
Private entities shouldn't be forced into doing anything on a whim. You can arguably stop them from doing some things, but there is no reasonable basis for compelling companies to do things as you are saying.
> Downvotes already? What's wrong with wanting an open platform?
The downvotes is because what you suggest is wholly antithetical to every "open" movement in history. You don't get to tell people what to do simply because you want it to be that way. That's tyranny.
> I think letting them work together on an open platform is less destructive and puts the world in a better place
Again with this whole thing. You don't get to enact whatever policies you want because you think it would be nice. People have rights.
Re: The App Store is a monopoly: Here's why the EU is correct to investigate Apple
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The problem isn't how they run their store -- the problem is that they are the only store.
It's their product and they can do whatever they want with it. If anyone doesn't like that, they can easily not purchase iDevices. Apple doesn't force people to buy their products.
It's my phone, and I can do whatever I want with it. If Apple doesn't like that, they can easily maintain ownership by not selling the device. I don't force Apple to sell iPhones instead of leaving them in a warehouse.
Once I've bought it, it is mine. The entire idea that Apple can do whatever they want on a device that they have already sold is ludicrous.
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South Korean local Android app market does all that, with 20% fee. Competition is in fact beneficial, both for consumers and publishers.
You can't have competition in a single ecosystem and have all those qualities because some consumers will be tricked into using some app store that looks legit and isn't. And as you point out, Android is a competitor and the Android stores compete with Apple's store. Just buy a different phone.
Apple is really good at reviewing apps. Why don't they review app store apps? Because they want to artificially suppress competition.
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You can still have what you want and give people other options. It's called choice. We deserve to be able to choose
You can choose, go and choose one of the other 70% of the phones on the market.
This. Go choose a better job if you are poor. There are many.
Re: The App Store is a monopoly: Here's why the EU is correct to investigate Apple
#70As a consumer, I am 100% in favor of the way run the app store. I don't want to give random apps my credit card. I don't want to have 18 accounts to keep track of. I don't want to have to call telephone support to cancel my account. I don't want malware in my apps. I don't want apps to have my email if they don't need it. I don't need another middleman for content companies license and distribute. Everything Apple is…
All of that can be done while also not being a monopoly. Apple steals apps and recreates their own versions. They can remove your app for no reason on a whim because you might compete with them.
That's what the anti-monopoly is about. Frequently, apples 'pro consumer behavior' is demonstrably false, both from their hardware to their software. It's about making you artificially pay more for less and creating a culture of privledged users that mistake revocation of freedom as 'design' because they have the money to ignore reality.
Apple deserves any anti-monopoly actions it gets.