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Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Wait, so I'm going to have to install the TikTok For Business with Sharepoint integration in my Teams? I guess anything makes sense to a company that paid $26 billion USD for LinkedIn.

Jokes aside, it probably would be a nice addition to their consumer-oriented portfolio (i.e. xbox, minecraft, etc), if they're planning to stay relevant in the FAANG-taking-over-the-world state of reality these days.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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Not sure if this is good. There is now a new trending app that is eating up TikTok users, its called Triller. Same concept but US made I think. What happens if MSFT buy TikTok only for the users to migrate to the new flavour of the social media app.

I use TikTok a lot (there are >1M combined views on my videos) and I've never heard of it. A lot of good TikTokers from before the app really took off went to Byte (made by the dudes that made Vine) and it seems like Byte is the logical successor. I expect most users will migrate eventually. TikTok had its charms because it was completely mismanaged. The discover feed had a mix between popular (>1M likes) and very un…

> TikTok had its charms because it was completely mismanaged. The discover feed had a mix between popular (>1M likes) and very unpopular (1-30 likes) videos and very odd videos, like someone slowly crushing a hornet to death inside a syringe, get popular often.

Why is that a mismanagement? You said it yourself, it has its charms. (And I agree with you.) What is the goal of discover feed if not to have "its charms"? To the contrary, I think TikTok's discover feed is genius. It is very well managed, and I hope it doesn't change.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

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post #57

Not sure if this is good. There is now a new trending app that is eating up TikTok users, its called Triller. Same concept but US made I think. What happens if MSFT buy TikTok only for the users to migrate to the new flavour of the social media app.

Triller is ancient. If anything the next app is going to be Byte. Until that jumps the shark.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

#124
This is from Bloomberg's coverage of the story:

"President Donald Trump plans to announce a decision ordering Bytedance to divest its U.S. ownership of TikTok, according to people familiar with the matter. The U.S. has been investigating potential national security risks due to the Chinese company’s control of the app. Trump’s decision could be announced as soon as Friday, said the people."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-31/microsoft...

Microsoft Is Said to Be in Talks to Buy TikTok in U.S.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

#125

It would take nothing less than a from-scratch rewrite to achieve a high degree of confidence that all backdoors have been eliminated from the TikTok codebase. I hope Microsoft is up for that.

What gives you the low degree of confidence MS engineers couldn't do a complete scan of TikTok's codebase?

I don't have confidence about scans in general against novel attacks. Scans are effective against the threat model of off-the-shelf attacks, not a threat model of highly motivated, highly-skilled attackers capable of inserting subtle defects anywhere in a giant codebase.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

#126
I wonder what the ownership transfer of a multi-billion dollar app looks like?

Like, what emails, button clicks, phone calls, etc, is involved in changing the ownership of the iOS app from one party to another? Presumably it's a different process from like, a toy app with zero downloads?

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

#127

Wait, so I'm going to have to install the TikTok For Business with Sharepoint integration in my Teams? I guess anything makes sense to a company that paid $26 billion USD for LinkedIn.

We'll gonna have tiktok based video portfolio for interview.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

#128

This is not good. Facebook or Google would be worse, but Microsoft is only marginally less bad here.

It's moderately humorous that we have congressional antitrust hearings going on against Amazon, Apple, Facebook and Google.

Meanwhile the largest company in the world by Q1 2020 market cap, a company that was found to be in violation of the antitrust act in the past, a company which now owns the most popular social network for business is about to acquire a significant part of the fastest growing social media platform.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

#129

It would take nothing less than a from-scratch rewrite to achieve a high degree of confidence that all backdoors have been eliminated from the TikTok codebase. I hope Microsoft is up for that.

Funny how Americans see this. I would trust Tiktok less the second it became US owned. We think software and businesses from Russia and PRC does bad things. We know US owned does. It is mindbaffling to me how anyone could believe the risks are lower with US owned software. Snowden's leaks was a complete failure for the common American. They have learned nothing at all. Good old red scare still works way better than facts.

Re: Microsoft is reportedly in talks to buy TikTok's US operations

#130

Wait, so I'm going to have to install the TikTok For Business with Sharepoint integration in my Teams? I guess anything makes sense to a company that paid $26 billion USD for LinkedIn.

>I guess anything makes sense to a company that paid $26 billion USD for LinkedIn.

Is there data to support that this was overvalued? Not personally a big fan of LinkedIn, but it seemed like probably a good long-term buy for Microsoft.

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