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Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Re: Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Post by DavidSJ »

tesseract wrote: post #27
rtkwe wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of the world uses comma separators actually including basically all of Europe minus a few. The whole wikipedia article is kind of neat; never figured California would have a weird system for a while where decimal parts on signs were expressed as super scripts (eg 3^7 meant 3.7). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#/media/File:...

Superscript decimals are pretty common in the US for handwritten money amounts (like on checks or price tags) but outside that context it does seem weird!

Some examples of this on price tags:

https://4.imimg.com/data4/VV/RV/MY-3648905/price-tag-250x250...

https://www.coloraccounting.com/uploads/2/4/8/0/24801950/pub...

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQu8D...

On gas stations, the superscript is indicating tenths of a penny, rather than pennies.

That latter practice is not exclusive to the US. This sign is from Germany or Austria I believe (LKW is German):

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D3XKHG/price-board-a-gas-station-w...

Re: Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Post by aagd »

The artists behind this: → https://www.ubermorgen.com/

Their website doesn't seem to load well so WP: → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubermorgen

They also caused quite a stir with a satirical website called Vote Auction where people could sell their votes to the highest bidder. → https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voteauction

Re: Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Post by bjstrevy »

kome wrote: post #7

GWEI is one of the smartest web.art project i remember. HN is in love with the old web lately! And I understand, the "new" web is just a boring, commercial and "colorfully" grey. Also, too much JS.

I've actually been working on a browser extension this year that is directly inspired by the older web (early 00's for me) where you can chat with the other people on the same domain or page as you called Sidewalk.Chat

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/sidewalkchat/denbp...

People seem to want to return to that sort of more innocent time since we just crossed 1K users.

Re: Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Post by rtkwe »

tesseract wrote: post #27
rtkwe wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A lot of the world uses comma separators actually including basically all of Europe minus a few. The whole wikipedia article is kind of neat; never figured California would have a weird system for a while where decimal parts on signs were expressed as super scripts (eg 3^7 meant 3.7). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator#/media/File:...

Superscript decimals are pretty common in the US for handwritten money amounts (like on checks or price tags) but outside that context it does seem weird!

Hmm never really thought of those as super scripts, maybe because they don't extend above the main digit?

Re: Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Post by hearsayings »

kome wrote: post #7

GWEI is one of the smartest web.art project i remember. HN is in love with the old web lately! And I understand, the "new" web is just a boring, commercial and "colorfully" grey. Also, too much JS.

"Disadvantaged, led - and 'seduced'"

Hey, it's been a while but... wait, there was something with bugging-ads... P-:

Re: Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Post by culopatin »

m12k wrote: post #11
HenryKissinger wrote: post #4

> We generate money by serving Google text advertisments on a network of hidden Websites. With this money we automatically buy Google shares. We buy Google via their own advertisment! Google eats itself - but in the end "we" own it! I thought websites paid Google to have their ads on their ads network. Isn't that how Google makes the bulk of its revenue?

Advertisers pay Google, which then pays publishers (people who own websites) to have the ads displayed on their sites. This display ad network was largely established when Google bought DoubleClick, and should not be confused with Google's search ads (where ads are displayed in Google's own search results).

But don't you need certain volume of visits for Google to want to display their ads in your site? What stops me from creating 300 random sites and putting google ads in them and just let them sit?

Re: Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Post by echelon »

pritambarhate wrote: post #14

As per Wikipedia[1]: >> Page and Brin remain co-founders, employees, board members, and controlling shareholders of Alphabet Inc. Forbes article referenced by Wikipedia:[2] >> At Alphabet’s annual meeting in June, multiple shareholders criticized the fact that Page did not show up given that he and Brin have more than 50% of the company’s voting power, thanks to Alphabet’s multi-class stock structure. That structure…

Is lack of attendance something that happens regularly?

Can control ever be wrested from majority voting power owners? Page and Brin, Zuckerberg, et al.?

Re: Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Post by whack »

Unpopular opinion but this sounds like a half baked idea that will never amount to anything. Imagine some other equally silly parallels:

We generate money by selling iOS apps on a network of hidden developers. With this money we automatically buy Apple shares. We buy Apple via their own app store! Apple eats itself - but in the end "we" own it!

We generate money by selling goods on Amazon on a network of hidden affiliates. With our profits we automatically buy Amazon shares. We buy Amazon via their own marketplace! Amazon eats itself - but in the end "we" own it!

If your goal is to takeover a public company, just start a GoFundMe and let people donate money to you using any source they want. That is a far better way of achieving your goal, as compared to accepting "donations" only via AdSense. Though I suppose that is far less "hip", so it'll never catch on.

Re: Google Will Eat Itself (2005)

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Post by zucker42 »

culopatin wrote: post #37
m12k wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertisers pay Google, which then pays publishers (people who own websites) to have the ads displayed on their sites. This display ad network was largely established when Google bought DoubleClick, and should not be confused with Google's search ads (where ads are displayed in Google's own search results).

But don't you need certain volume of visits for Google to want to display their ads in your site? What stops me from creating 300 random sites and putting google ads in them and just let them sit?

Nothing. You get money per impression or click (not quite sure how it works exactly). I'm sure they have automated systems to detect "click fraud".

More info here: https://www.google.com/adsense/start/

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