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Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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post #21

Once the USA has a sane commander-in-chief again, it's going to need to completely overhaul its approach to the Eastern European region, among other things.

There are serious constraints on what can be done. Among others, why would any other country make an agreement with the US where the payoff is more than 4 years out? It has repeatedly demonstrated an inability to keep promises.

I think this concern is overblown. It certainly hasn't stopped Canada and Mexico from negotiating the USMCA trade agreement, for example.

The JCPOA (more commonly known as the Iran deal) constrained Iran's nuclear program, and it was with great disappointment that I watched the administration withdraw. But there were anecdotal reports of transgressions on Iran's part, and the JCPOA was never submitted to the US Senate for ratification, which means it was never a legally binding agreement under U.S. law. Like the Paris climate agreement (most of its signatories saw their GHG emissions increase, but not the US; so much for the effectiveness of such agreements to achieve concrete progress in the fight against climate change).

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How will you react if the trained people don’t think an overhaul is needed?

I'll trust their judgment. I don't trust the judgment of the current administration.

Periodically you will find a "harumph!" post challenged instead of blindly upvoted, please do your homework

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

#36
post #15

why is the BBC calling NATO Nato? I had to internet search to figure out what they were talking about

It's an initialism vs acronym thing: when the initials are treated as a word (e.g. NASA, but not BBC) you don't have to capitalise the whole thing (Hence 'Nasa' is ok). See https://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/collegeofjournalism/entries/8f7c... for an explanation.

> initialism vs acronym

oh how interesting, ive never seen this debate before. I guess it confused because, internally, i dont treat acronyms as words. I dont think of NASA as Nasa or NATO as Nato, i find this counter-intuitive.

to think out loud, this seems antithetical to what an acronym is in the first place. NASA is a pointer, not an object. creating a new object Nasa templated from the pointer NASA (not the object the pointer is referencing) makes my head hurt.

the Bbc ( :-D ) does it, so apparently im the exception and not the normal.

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> US policy toward NATO has been remarkably consistent. Yeah, with Trump moving troops out of Germany because he believes, contrary to all facts, we'd be trying to rip them off. Not to mention the whole Iraq fiasco with Bush trying to rope NATO allies in a war based on lies.

So Germany is not deliquent on NATO payments? Or that doesn't qualify?

There aren't "NATO payments" per se.

However, it is a common defense treaty, and as such each member is expected to contribute a proportionate amount to their own military. Most recently the agreed level was 2% of GDP, which Germany has consistently fallen short of. Both Obama and Bush complained about it as well, but they both had a reasonable understanding of how things worked.

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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Once the USA has a sane commander-in-chief again, it's going to need to completely overhaul its approach to the Eastern European region, among other things.

This Russian propaganda is obviously targeting President Trump's plans to strengthen the eastern flank of NATO. Something Obama has been extremely weak on. He cancelled Missile Defense after opposition from Russia (famously promising "Vladimir" “more flexibility” on the issue after his "last election"). Eastern European leaders were warning Obama about Ukraine way before it happened but he wouldn't listen. And before that Georgia, but Obama was dead-set on his Russian "reset" and wanted to sweep these issues under the rug.

Re: Hackers post fake stories on real news sites 'to discredit NATO'

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post #34

Gee, I wonder what nation could possibly be behind this?

The one this fake story was designed to make you think it is behind it

Wow, how clever. So are you saying Russia never do these types of operations, or do they, but only sometimes? If so, I'd love to know how you can tell the difference.
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