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I find it rather telling that almost none of the crypto advocates in this thread make any argument that cryptocurrencies are not shady. Instead, the counterarguments brought forward are essentially: - "it's not the tool's fault that it's used for shady stuff" - "so what, other people are scammers, too!" - "there are so many warnings against cryptocurrencies, it's getting boring" - "yes, crypto has scams, but maybe so…
I find it rather telling that almost none of the crypto advocates in this thread make any argument that cryptocurrencies are not shady. Instead, the counterarguments brought forward are essentially: - "it's not the tool's fault that it's used for shady stuff" - "so what, other people are scammers, too!" - "there are so many warnings against cryptocurrencies, it's getting boring" - "yes, crypto has scams, but maybe so…
"Crypto community" is not a unified group of people, holding hands and singing "kumbaya", you know? Quite the opposite - fights and accusing almost all competing projects of technical and/or moral failures are a bread and butter of crypto. It's safe to say that most people in crypto space admits that the space is somewhat shady. How else could it be? Money are involved so it attracts people trying to exploit it and b…
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No, he's not talking about the technical features of blockchain. He's talking about the general shadiness of a nontrivial number of actors in the cryptocurrency sector itself, which have had a propensity for deceptive marketing, and even outright fraud. His concern is that if Haskell gets the reputation of being beholden to these interests it will make the Haskell ecosystem undesirable to legitimate actors.
But... who actually thinks this way when they select technologies? If Go was used for a lot of crypto scam, I wouldn’t spend a second thinking about it when I’m deciding to use it for my non-scam, non-crypto’s project. I have difficulty to understand how it is an issue that a programming language is used for a niche that has bad reputation.
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This isn't really true - several members of the team have been contributing to GHC since before Cardano was a thing.
There is no contradiction here. I didn't claim Cardano started Asterius. But it definitely is funding it.
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The way that whole affair is reported infuriates me. HSBC followed unclear government guidance and advised their clients to do the things that the government said were low risk. That article talks about "money laundering crimes" but nothing HSBC did was ever shown to be criminal, nor should it have been. They moved money in a legal way for their clients, but people would rather blame bankers than drug dealers.
> nothing HSBC did was ever shown to be criminal HSBC has a sordid history of associating with criminal or unethical behavior, including active participation in money-laundering - far from "moved money in a legal way". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSBC#Controversies
If you've got concrete facts to the contrary then I'd be happy to be corrected, but I'm convinced it's all just political posturing.
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> they don't contribute anything of value to society. They appear to be funding Haskell development.
is that worth however many percent of the worlds energy usage?
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Nope. This is a call to the Haskell developer community to stop cooperation with crypto projects, not a general call to stop using Haskell. I.e., it's a call to the knife makers to stop making their knifes to the specs of mob bosses, not a call to ban knifes. There are plenty of precedents for this kind of action, e.g. pharmaceutical companies refusing to supply chemicals for executions. (If were already going all li…
This sounds quite reasonable! But if all a knife needs is a sharp blade, there's little to be done in the way of limiting its specific uses. Also, do cryptocurrency bosses ask the community to shape Haskell in the way suitable for them, e.g. in the core libraries or extensions? Or do they just produce libraries for their own use?
There are also a lot of traditional finance companies using Haskell[1]. And, historically some of the people who created the language itself and have worked on GHC (and other compilers), or contributed heavily to the ecosystem have worked for traditional banks[2]. I don't mention them to encourage people to attack these people, but it comes off as a bit selective to focus on the people using your language for cryptoc…
This list is misleading. Sure, there are probably a few people at any of these companies dabbling with Haskell. But the only major financial company where it is mainstream is StanChart.
Also, FTA, Isle of Man, not Mann. How seriously can we take a rant about a place that doesn’t even know how to spell it (source: am in Wales, that Isle is just off our coast).
Fun fact: when Scots say “och aye the noo”, noo is the Manx word for “saint”. English people think noo is “news”. It gives a totally different meaning.
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> I'll believe this when somebody buys a house with Bitcoin. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/16/bitcoin-is-finally-buying-in... "Our buyer has evolved, they've moved from mom and pops to young people who want to pay with various forms of payment," said Ben Shaoul, president of Magnum Real Estate Group. "Cryptocurrency is something that has been asked of us — 'Can you take cryptocurrency? Can we pay that way?' — and of c…
Spoiler alert: no one bought a house with Bitcoin. A real estate agent advertised a willingness to buy Bitcoin from his customer to facilitate a transaction.
Others, however, are not as comfortable with the relatively new currency. The first ever single-family home sale in Texas involving bitcoin was announced last month. The buyer, who works in the tech industry, purchased the newly built home in Austin using bitcoin, but the seller, a custom homebuilder, wanted the currency converted to dollars during the transaction.
This article is from 2017 I'm sure if I searched for more I'd find more examples but regardless is buying a house really the final test of something's potential as a currency?