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Re: Remote First at Quora

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Post by reallydontask »

dboreham wrote: post #7
yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #4

It's amazing to me how many people and companies who have been forced to work remotely for the first time in their lives are suddenly the experts on it.

I've been waiting for Marissa Mayer to launch a remote working technology startup, since March.

Although I appreciate where your comment is coming from, namely her tenure at yahoo and probably tongue in cheek, people can change their views for genuine reasons and should, mostly, be admired when they do so. It takes courage to publicly admit that you are wrong

Re: Remote First at Quora

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Post by a_imho »

mac01021 wrote: post #5

> Prior to the Covid-19 pandemic, Quora had a strong office culture and discouraged employees from working remotely most of the time. But once the company had no choice, Quora CEO and co-founder Adam D’Angelo says they discovered the benefits of working from anywhere far outweigh the drawbacks. I'm surprise that so many people couldn't figure this out without being forced to try it against their will. I also wonder h…

I would hesitate to take anything from the article at face value, they just align with whatever is trending, there is nothing more to it really. Do you expect them to say I would force every single one of my peons back into the salt mines if I could, but alas I can't for the time being?

Re: Remote First at Quora

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Post by ceilingcorner »

Remote is the new cool word for off-shoring. Companies don’t decide to radically change their work structure just because it seems like a nice idea. If you expect tech companies to keep paying SV salaries after they shift to remote-first, you’re in for a rude surprise.

Re: Remote First at Quora

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Post by chippy »

Let's predict two things: Firstly, how long until they silently announce unemployment of a large proportion of their employees, and secondly what proportion of the staff will they lay off?

Re: Remote First at Quora

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Post by black_puppydog »

a_imho wrote: post #12
mac01021 wrote: post #5

> Prior to the Covid-19 pandemic, Quora had a strong office culture and discouraged employees from working remotely most of the time. But once the company had no choice, Quora CEO and co-founder Adam D’Angelo says they discovered the benefits of working from anywhere far outweigh the drawbacks. I'm surprise that so many people couldn't figure this out without being forced to try it against their will. I also wonder h…

I would hesitate to take anything from the article at face value, they just align with whatever is trending, there is nothing more to it really. Do you expect them to say I would force every single one of my peons back into the salt mines if I could, but alas I can't for the time being ?

Which, depending on how you see it, is okay. I personally don't expect corporations to really have a consciousness. I expect them to react to outside stimulus, that's all. So if "we" make in unacceptable to say "come to the office or get lost" then they will accept that, no more, no less. That's okay with me.

Re: Remote First at Quora

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Post by 7952 »

iagooar wrote: post #10

Working remotely has a very high cost, but it only gets visible in the long term. Working from home isolates you. There is no way around this. You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office. For the company, people that work remote start drifting away from the company vision and spirit - you get an army of people working individually most of the time,…

I agree that offices can be beneficial. But most of us are comparing our work-from-home setup to a very sub-optimal office experience. It is usually a big open plan office with crappy air conditioning and windows that don't open. It is a complete lack of privacy unless you manage to book a glass walled meeting room. It is a boss who thinks that shorts on a hot day are "unprofessional". I would love to go back to the office, but not like that.

Re: Remote First at Quora

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Post by codetrotter »

yakshaving_jgt wrote: post #4

It's amazing to me how many people and companies who have been forced to work remotely for the first time in their lives are suddenly the experts on it.

If you have some valuable knowledge about remote work, please post it. But I don’t see any reason to demand that everyone should be an expert on remote work before we allow them to share their experiences and thoughts about this thing that we’ve been going through.

Re: Remote First at Quora

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Post by arethuza »

reallydontask wrote: post #11
dboreham wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been waiting for Marissa Mayer to launch a remote working technology startup, since March.

Although I appreciate where your comment is coming from, namely her tenure at yahoo and probably tongue in cheek, people can change their views for genuine reasons and should, mostly, be admired when they do so. It takes courage to publicly admit that you are wrong

It's great when people admit when they have changed their mind and the reasons why - but a lot of "political" people simply change and never admit they recommended anything else.

Re: Remote First at Quora

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Post by helltone »

ceilingcorner wrote: post #13

Remote is the new cool word for off-shoring. Companies don’t decide to radically change their work structure just because it seems like a nice idea. If you expect tech companies to keep paying SV salaries after they shift to remote-first, you’re in for a rude surprise.

That, and the fact that all the benefits snacks beer gym etc will all be lost not replaced.

Re: Remote First at Quora

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Post by rodrigodlu »

iagooar wrote: post #10

Working remotely has a very high cost, but it only gets visible in the long term. Working from home isolates you. There is no way around this. You lose the one huge opportunity in adult life for making new relationships - and that's at work, in the office. For the company, people that work remote start drifting away from the company vision and spirit - you get an army of people working individually most of the time,…

As a guy that married with a girl that I did know first on MMOs (11 years of marriage, after 3 years playing Ragnarok Online), and played some others (WoW, WoT) for a while, connected entire day using Teamspeak, I do not feel this a negative point.

We can workaround and I made many acquaintances online.

Now I have a 5 year child and I turned my bedroom into a office. I just educated her during the last year (before covid) that this is a possibility.

I promised her that after 6pm my schedule is hers and we have fun after that.

Not commuting equals 5 extra hours / week of fun with my dear little girl, playing some games, doing activities like painting, board games and so on.

For me it was very positive.

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