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Re: Del.icio.us

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post #139

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I don't know how Yahoo spied on their users, privacy wasn't that big a thing in the early 2000s. But just look at the difference between the Google homepage and that of Yahoo from 1999. Google was a simple "search" box, Yahoo was cluttered with tons of stuff, including ads. What made Google successful, besides being very effective as a search engine, is that it didn't have annoying ads, trivia and dubious content. Ti…

Privacy was always a thing and a concern, just not for kids jumping into the internet that don't know better, and that's still a problem today.

I should have mentioned privacy on the internet.

Privacy has always been a concern, but it used to be something more physical that involved sealed packages, curtains and cash payment. Privacy-minded people simply didn't share sensitive information on the internet, they treated everything on the internet as public.

Privacy on the internet wasn't that much of a thing not because privacy has changed, but because the internet has changed. It is now everywhere and used for things that used to be unthinkable back then: banking, official documents,... An internet connected coffee pot (not a teapot) used to be a joke, they are now in every (online!) shop.

Re: Del.icio.us

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All that talk but forgot to say what Yahoo didn't do - show you what you wanted on the first page. You can run circles around it they just weren't good enough. But sure nostalgia is great and bringing delicious back will be amazinggggg

Who shows you what you want on the first page? Facebook shows you what they want. If you don't have an ad blocker Google shows you what they are paid most to show. Amazon the same.

What a disingenuous comment. Google gets what you want often in a box even before the search results.

Re: Del.icio.us

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People aren’t remembering the negatives to these. I still use a normal style forum sometimes. Being single threaded is annoying. People keep asking the same questions or repeating the same stuff again and again. No fault of their own. Discovery in a single thread is crazy hard. Finding what you’re looking for in a thread can take a long time. Some one may ask a question your interested in knowing the answer to, but f…

> People keep asking the same questions or repeating the same stuff again and again Trying to police this destroys the usefulness of a forum too. There is one major forum for a piece of software I use so I had this issue Google lead me to the forum, the thread is old and because it's old it's locked but it doesn't answer the question. I post a new thread after waiting 12 hours for my account to be approved by a mod,…

I meant all in the same thread. It’s hard to go through it all when threads get longer. Say a dozen or two pages. The same question might be asked 5-10 times. Then answered that many times too, but with varying correctness.

On what you wrote about, a good point too, just not what I was thinking of, I am cool with topics repeating. It makes sense for then reasons you gave.

I don’t remember any forum I used to go to that was really tight and strict with not allowing duplicates. Stackoveflow is what I think of for a place that really hurts the community with its strictness.

Re: Del.icio.us

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post #148

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People aren’t remembering the negatives to these. I still use a normal style forum sometimes. Being single threaded is annoying. People keep asking the same questions or repeating the same stuff again and again. No fault of their own. Discovery in a single thread is crazy hard. Finding what you’re looking for in a thread can take a long time. Some one may ask a question your interested in knowing the answer to, but f…

> I have a feeling grass is greener on the other side and people in either case. That's a bit reductive, perhaps. The way I see it, different styles of 'forums' or 'communities' can foster different types of interactions. it's a bit like how in the 'real world' we might have a gathering where everyone sits in a circle, or small separate tables, or a bar area, or a conference-style 'lecture + hallway-track', etc. each…

I wrote that in response to all the people here lamenting for those old style forums again. Specifically for that. Not as a general statement.

It’s possible many communities never have get the correct way of interacting ever. With positives and negatives to their choices and alternatives. Which is also what my statement was referring to.

Re: Del.icio.us

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People aren’t remembering the negatives to these. I still use a normal style forum sometimes. Being single threaded is annoying. People keep asking the same questions or repeating the same stuff again and again. No fault of their own. Discovery in a single thread is crazy hard. Finding what you’re looking for in a thread can take a long time. Some one may ask a question your interested in knowing the answer to, but f…

> People keep asking the same questions or repeating the same stuff again and again. That's what FAQ lists are for. Many forums have wiki-like features where FAQ-like information can be stored and kept up-to-date.

I meant all in the same thread. It’s hard to go through it all when threads get longer. Say a dozen or two pages. The same question might be asked 5-10 times. Then answered that many times too, but with varying correctness.

Re: Del.icio.us

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This is probably one of my favorite developments coming from the quarantine. Maciej Ceglowski is a keeper of the torch reminding us of what the web used to be: a weird place filled with weird people who were guided by curious intellects and a belief that the internet can and would liberate us in some strange and amazing way. Before social media amplified celebrity worship and extreme positions, everyone's voice on th…

> In some ways Mark Zuckerberg was cut from the old cloth. The original Facebook was in many ways amazing, quickly evolving, and so open.

"I" created Facebook in 1999. The commpany I worked for wanted a "networked solution for all and everyone." Not big enough market, bad timing etc. So there you have it; timing is _everything_.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore? It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser. But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was ther…

I use Pinboard a lot, all the time.

Re: Del.icio.us

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post #326

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But the popularity of Delicious then was proof that it was useful. It was a major internet destination. Today there's no similarly popular equivalent. Sure general-purpose social URL bookmarking sites still exist but they're niche, not mainstream. So thanks for trying to invalidate my question, but it's not that simple.

there's a huge proliferation of memory tools: notion, pinterest, and so on. so, yes, your question is bad: you're assuming what works for you is right for everybody.

You don't need to be a jerk here.

First, I said popular general-purpose URL. Notion isn't popular, pinterest isn't general-purpose, and so on.

And absolutely nowhere did I assume what is true for me is for everyone. Which I why I asked rather than assumed. And got valuable answers about other perpsectives.

So no, my question wasn't "bad". I suggest you take your judgmental attitude elsewhere. HN is not the place for it.

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