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ByteDance investors value TikTok at $50B in takeover bid

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Re: ByteDance investors value TikTok at $50B in takeover bid

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Post by atian »

cambalache wrote: post #118

No matter what the future may bring for TikTok, it has surprised me because it definitely showed that the Chinese are coming with their unicorns and coming hard. I was expecting something like that but in a decade or so. You can argue that is not that technically advanced and slightly derivative, but its explosive growth, smart user engagement tactics, polished presentation (a constant weak point with Chinese product…

“How did you go bankrupt?

Two ways. Gradually and then suddenly.”

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Post by _6fmb »

diag wrote: post #119
_6fmb wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As said in some other comments, TikTok does not use a "follow" model, new content is algorithmically recommended to you. Therefore there is no problem with the content creators you're following burning out or your follow list getting stale. For example my highschool friends are no longer that active on facebook, and in 2020 I'm no longer asking random people to add me to FB, therefore facebook is now kind of dead to…

Youtube does a pretty good job of recommending new content though.

Yeah, it's one of the ones that's doing well and don't seem to suffer much from people getting bored and leaving for fresher networks.

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Post by devmunchies »

josephpmay wrote: post #19
jbob2000 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apps are easy to install... and easy to uninstall. Where's Snapchat these days? What about Vine? What about tumblr? These companies make apps to try to monetize a community, but communities are fickle and easy to scare off. If I were an investor, I'd value these apps for the computers in their offices and the code their developers write and that's it. Maybe $100mil if you get me on a good day. You can't value them fo…

Snapchat is doing great and making money. They're still worth over 33 Billion.

I haven't seen or heard about anyone using snapchat in the last year. It used to be the location for all my family's chat. They definitely aren't experiencing explosive growth anymore.

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Post by capableweb »

cambalache wrote: post #118

No matter what the future may bring for TikTok, it has surprised me because it definitely showed that the Chinese are coming with their unicorns and coming hard. I was expecting something like that but in a decade or so. You can argue that is not that technically advanced and slightly derivative, but its explosive growth, smart user engagement tactics, polished presentation (a constant weak point with Chinese product…

Name one US unicorn that is not "not that technically advanced and slightly derivative". Basically all the work developers are doing nowadays is in one or another building on the shoulders of giants ("slightly derivative")

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Post by justicezyx »

nomel wrote: post #106
chvid wrote: post #26

If you look at the graphs in this article on the use and explosive popularity of TikTok you can see that TiKTok currently dwarfs all other social media in the US market wrt. downloads, time spent in app pr user, user growth. https://www.ft.com/content/c6a8b9bc-dd6d-46a7-b008-825568982... TikTok’s rampant growth strikes wrong note with US

Or, if they allegations are true, you could look at this as "rampant growth in data harvesting".

That's definitely true.

Chinese corps generally have a much lower standards on privacy. Because they were subject to lower standards when they started in domestic China.

Re: ByteDance investors value TikTok at $50B in takeover bid

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Post by devmunchies »

chvid wrote: post #17

This is from Twitter and might be a hyperbole or conspiracy: Overheard on current US war on Tiktok. A thread: Talks abt ban on Tiktok subsiding a bit because Tiktok in talks with General Atlantic and Sequoia to sell to a US shell company. US demanding that Tiktok technical staff be completely changed, AI algorithm be based in the US... Continued at https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1288284750273114112

> US demanding that Tiktok technical staff be completely changed, AI algorithm be based in the US

plot twist, HQ moved to Israel and entire company becomes un-critique-able

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Post by patrickaljord »

rattray wrote: post #24
alehul wrote: post #14

Many are suggesting that TikTok would be overvalued at $50B. If that's the case, do you believe FB is overvalued at $662B? Instagram, as of 2018, was estimated to be worth around $100B on its own (with about 1b MAUs, versus TikTok's 800m). TikTok seems at least equally addictive, and its algorithm does a fantastic job at quickly showing good content that matches your interests.

In my personal experience, Instagram ads are shockingly good (they often hit me with something that I actually want) and Tiktok ads shockingly bad (I've never seen one I didn't swipe through immediately). Obviously Tiktok and their advertisers will be doing a lot of work on this, and they've only just begun, but I really wonder about the efficacy of the medium for ads. It seems like a much more difficult forum for th…

Instagram ads are better but TikTok is way more entertaining to me. I almost always get a chuckle or even a laugh every time I use TikTok, last time I opened Instagram all I got was boring food pictures, pictures of dogs and a friend's family picture...

Re: ByteDance investors value TikTok at $50B in takeover bid

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Post by weston »

dorafmon wrote: post #99

Why this report is 50B while a recent BBG report said 100? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-20/tiktok-ow...

I believe the article originally posted is referring to TikTok’s valuation as a standalone product, should it be spun off. Whereas the link you posted is about the valuation of parent company ByteDance.

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Post by bigpumpkin »

dorafmon wrote: post #99

Why this report is 50B while a recent BBG report said 100? https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-20/tiktok-ow...

Bytedance is the parent company. It has apps other than TikTok. Douyin, basically the Chinese version of TikTok is one. Toutiao, a news aggregator, is another.

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Post by hellomyguys »

mschuster91 wrote: post #87
hellomyguys wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Additionally there is the very real risk that TikTok will be seen by governments as what it is: Chinese spyware. India has already banned it, I hope that the rest of the world follows suit. Well that's why the investors are trying to take it over. >Eternal September: what has happened to Instagram will also happen to TikTok. Definitely agree this is always a concern, but the type of content that is rewarded on TikTo…

> Well that's why the investors are trying to take it over. As long as China has anything meaningful to say, that won't be enough. > but the type of content that is rewarded on TikTok makes it less exploitable by people who build followings by posting low-effort content that looks good aesthetically. Lol most of the stuff that goes viral on Tiktok is essentially that. People scaring cows ffs (look up "kulikitaka chal…

>Lol most of the stuff that goes viral on Tiktok is essentially that. People scaring cows ffs (look up "kulikitaka challenge"). Can't get much more "crap" than this.

That's not what my FYP looks like and I don't think most people would agree TikTok and IG content aesthetics are similar... but even scaring cows sounds more entertaining than a picture of an influencer on the beach.

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