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Post by sp332 »

mercer wrote: post #141
flocial wrote: post #134

This is probably one of my favorite developments coming from the quarantine. Maciej Ceglowski is a keeper of the torch reminding us of what the web used to be: a weird place filled with weird people who were guided by curious intellects and a belief that the internet can and would liberate us in some strange and amazing way. Before social media amplified celebrity worship and extreme positions, everyone's voice on th…

> In some ways Mark Zuckerberg was cut from the old cloth. The original Facebook was in many ways amazing, quickly evolving, and so open. Everything took a turn for the worse with advertising. At the same time, for me, Facebook was the first example of the internet becoming more samey, centralized and where its users became more consumers of a platform instead of individual creators. When I first got to use Facebook…

I agree that was what I originally disliked about Facebook. But I think a bigger problem (that definitely got worse over time) was the way everything gets swept away on FB. If you see something, it's very difficult to get back to it later. This is demoralizing for the writers too.

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Post by chrisweekly »

haywirez wrote: post #151

What a hero — love how the story of Pinboard stacks up against the long-term unsustainability of VC-funded and overhyped startups. Quote from the 2011 article[0]: "My dream is to keep this a one-person project," says Ceglowski. "I am competing against billionaires like the YouTube guys running Delicious and I can hold my own. The tools I use have gotten so good and they are the same ones that Yahoo and Google use." I…

Soundcloud is awesome! Keep it up!

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Post by andrewxhonson »

lcnmrn wrote: post #209
haywirez wrote: post #151

What a hero — love how the story of Pinboard stacks up against the long-term unsustainability of VC-funded and overhyped startups. Quote from the 2011 article[0]: "My dream is to keep this a one-person project," says Ceglowski. "I am competing against billionaires like the YouTube guys running Delicious and I can hold my own. The tools I use have gotten so good and they are the same ones that Yahoo and Google use." I…

I'm doing the same thing with Subreply against Facebook, Twitter, Gab, Mastodon. There are others like me: GoatCounter, Micro.blog, Midnight.pub, Lobste.rs, etc.

I'm looking at Subreply, and notice you said it's English-only on the about page. Is that something you enforce? What's your reasoning if you don't mind my asking?

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Post by CarelessExpert »

conjectures wrote: post #60
whym wrote: post #25

Ask HN: Why did delicious.com fail? (2017) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15493212 After some digging, the above thread seemed like the most informative one as to what happened to Delicious (with a top comment from joshu, no less).

This made me nostalgic for RSS. Is anyone reviving that in a nice way?

Wanna know how I landed on this post?

RSS.

What I can't figure out is why there's a persistent myth that RSS has somehow vanished from the internet...

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Post by duxup »

flocial wrote: post #134

This is probably one of my favorite developments coming from the quarantine. Maciej Ceglowski is a keeper of the torch reminding us of what the web used to be: a weird place filled with weird people who were guided by curious intellects and a belief that the internet can and would liberate us in some strange and amazing way. Before social media amplified celebrity worship and extreme positions, everyone's voice on th…

My personal projects (all too elementary to talk about at this point) are intended to be just that. Not flashy, but functional, they respect your privacy and etc. They are what they are and there's no secret or desire to dump it if it doesn't make $ billion.

I was thinking a while ago of the old "web ring" idea where likeminded sites were all listed together in a ring and you could explore them.

It would be nice if there was a "simple, privacy oriented, sustainable" web ring out there of good projects doing good things for their customers.

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Post by neovive »

binarysneaker wrote: post #206
jacek wrote: post #32

I absolutely loved del.icio.us back in the day and I would love to use it again. No other method of bookmarking/collecting sites worked for me as well as del.icio.us. And I have never found the right alternative.

I searched and searched for a replacement too. In the last year I found raindrop.io, and I'm really happy with it. (No affiliation)

I recently started experimenting with Notion web clipper extension and it's been pretty good. The extension populates the page meta data and content to a Notion table. It works well on desktop and mobile and I've been quite happy having my bookmarks together with my other notes on Notion. Unfortunately, you can't add tags directly from the extension, so you have to open the page in Notion.

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Post by CarelessExpert »

SllX wrote: post #184
marcus_holmes wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's still there, but support isn't great - a lot of sites don't have a feed, or it's waaaay outdated.

A lot of sites that do have a feed don’t make it easily discoverable. You can play around with three URL path, or you can use a browser extension to find it. If it’s a Substack site, the feed URL probably exists and is probably just /feed/, at least on the sites I’ve tried.

There's browser plugins that fix the feed discovery issue. For example:

Firefox - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-CA/firefox/addon/awesome-rss/

Chrome - https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/rss-finder/ijdgeed...

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Post by crazygringo »

Not to rain on the parade, but serious question: are bookmarks actually useful anymore?

It's funny, I'm trying to remember when I simply stopped using bookmarks. 5 years ago, maybe? 10? I'm not entirely sure. I used to have elaborate folder hierachies of bookmarks in my browser.

But at some point, I realized anytime I needed something, it was faster to just type a keyword or two in the address bar. Either it was there in my history, autosuggested, or my search engine would find it. So maybe it was when Chrome debuted the Omnibox?

I suppose it was around the same time I started primarily accessing files on my computer/drive with search (Drive, Spotlight) rather than navigating folders.

A few years later, I stopped organizing my 1000's of tracks into playlists by mood/theme, because now I can just think of a single track I'm in the mood for, and start a Spotify Radio based on that track.

In other words: I no longer extensively curate, because you just don't have to anymore, beyond a kind of bare minimum (a few project folders, a mega "favorite tracks" playlist).

So I guess I'm just curious: Delicious was wonderful when it existed. But even if it were brought back, is it a service people need anymore? Or have we moved on to a new paradigm?

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Post by ghaff »

glenstein wrote: post #231
bE9a3S5So8igd3 wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Now with the idear of delicious coming back, your comment makes me consider all the good low-to-mid scale shit we've lost over time. In ~ 2008 it seems like there were just more fun/interesting sites around. Maybe I was just in an exploratory phase - late teens - and was discovering new things often. Or maybe the barrier to entry today, in terms of design/polish/product is weirdly high, and has pushed out the seeker-…

I think the most obvious example I would add to this list you are thinking of would be livejournal. I also had a handful of SoundCloud-like medium scale music sites that I went to, like Purevolume. I also remember this as a time when Google didn't yet have a reputation for abandoning everything they touched, so you could get inspired by, say, Google Knol or Google Wave. I had hope that Google Reader might grow into s…

There are no real barriers to blogging or using an RSS reader if you want to. (RSS feeds are less ubiquitous than they used to be but they're still common.) And, of course, for saving and sharing bookmarks, it's Pinboard that's buying del.icio.us.

I never really tried out Wave but Knol suffered from the problem you'd expect if everyone gets to write their own self-promotional competing article on a topic.

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Post by kyle-rb »

dexterdog wrote: post #192
kome wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RSS is still great to get the news and blogs, I use https://theoldreader.com/

Most recent blog post, 18 months ago. Most recent tweet, 13 months ago. I wouldn't rely on that service as a daily tool.

No news is good news, unless you're talking about an RSS reader.
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