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Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by glenstein »

bE9a3S5So8igd3 wrote: post #160
kerkeslager wrote: post #147

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> Delicious was for a time at the cultural nerve center of the web, and I think had the potential to be something like a twitter or a reddit if stewarded correctly. Delicious turning into Twitter or Reddit would have been a real loss. "But it doesn't scale!" is practically a mantra for HN, but scalability is fairly low on the list of values for me. I'd rather have interesting websites than big websites, and I'd rathe…

Now with the idear of delicious coming back, your comment makes me consider all the good low-to-mid scale shit we've lost over time. In ~ 2008 it seems like there were just more fun/interesting sites around. Maybe I was just in an exploratory phase - late teens - and was discovering new things often. Or maybe the barrier to entry today, in terms of design/polish/product is weirdly high, and has pushed out the seeker-…

I think the most obvious example I would add to this list you are thinking of would be livejournal. I also had a handful of SoundCloud-like medium scale music sites that I went to, like Purevolume.

I also remember this as a time when Google didn't yet have a reputation for abandoning everything they touched, so you could get inspired by, say, Google Knol or Google Wave. I had hope that Google Reader might grow into something, and the was a fraction of a second where we all wanted to believe in Google Plus.

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Post by nikhizzle »

marcinzm wrote: post #222
nikhizzle wrote: post #121

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Ex-yahoo here, thought I would add my 2 cents. Yahoo under Jerry and Filo (love them both, this is not personal) had a twin culture of niceness and bureaucracy which killed us. Here are an example of each: 1. Niceness - a coworker decided to just randomly not show up for work (not WFH, just disappear occasionally). I took it to management, and was told we don’t want to hurt his feelings. 2. Bureaucracy - I left yahoo…

>2. Bureaucracy - I left yahoo to go to Facebook. At Facebook, if you needed a server, you would go to an internal tool, slide a slider and click a button. At Yahoo, you had to take a proposal to a committee led by a cofounder, and then be repeatedly shot down until you finally persevered. I personally I believe Hadoop took off at Yahoo because it was a way of getting computing resources that did not need to go throu…

To get access to the Hadoop cluster you also needed special permissions and to go through a committee. At Facebook, access was given to all technical and non-technical (after an afternoon of training) people.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by nikhizzle »

organsnyder wrote: post #130
nikhizzle wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ex-yahoo here, thought I would add my 2 cents. Yahoo under Jerry and Filo (love them both, this is not personal) had a twin culture of niceness and bureaucracy which killed us. Here are an example of each: 1. Niceness - a coworker decided to just randomly not show up for work (not WFH, just disappear occasionally). I took it to management, and was told we don’t want to hurt his feelings. 2. Bureaucracy - I left yahoo…

Hard to tell without context, but that first example could easily be a positive: not only is extending grace to employees ethically a good thing to do, but it can also lead to increased productivity in the long run. Of course, if the employee was completely MIA for an extended period of time and no effort was made to contact them, that's neither ethical nor productive.

The employee was taking off days without taking vacation to work on hobbies without telling HR or Management. He was just not showing up. This happened with many employees all the time.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by djsumdog »

I had the Delicious Firefox plugin until that stopped working. I've been meaning to go through the Firefox sqlite databases and try to export all my old bookmarks/tags that were synced. I can grep references to delicious in there, so they might still exist.

I've poked around in the tables a little bit but haven't done any deep dives. I'm pretty sure I didn't opt in during the transfer and also I don't have access to the e-mail address I used on delicious, so my data, on that old service I'm sure is long gone.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by glenstein »

purple-again wrote: post #152
organsnyder wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hard to tell without context, but that first example could easily be a positive: not only is extending grace to employees ethically a good thing to do, but it can also lead to increased productivity in the long run. Of course, if the employee was completely MIA for an extended period of time and no effort was made to contact them, that's neither ethical nor productive.

Seems highly probable HR knew what was going on and was okay with it. Child died recently. Only one driving father to chemo appointments. Etc. not the kind of thing they would give any other employees a heads up on. It would be very strange if they had no idea and didn’t care that an employee wasn’t showing up. That kind of culture would get swamped fast.

>Seems highly probable HR knew what was going on and was okay with it. Child died recently. Only one driving father to chemo appointments. Etc. not the kind of thing they would give any other employees a heads up on.

Is this based on direct knowledge or are you just listing possible examples? Because these examples are very different from what the ex-yahoo person mentioned in a follow-up comment: stuff like personal hobbies.

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Post by Tenoke »

sonicggg wrote: post #218

I posted the exact same crap 6 days ago : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23922252 1p, 0 comments Not that it matters, but what is the rule for something gaining traction here? It seems totally arbitrary.

Random chance and quite a lot of moderator curation.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by marcinzm »

nikhizzle wrote: post #232
marcinzm wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>2. Bureaucracy - I left yahoo to go to Facebook. At Facebook, if you needed a server, you would go to an internal tool, slide a slider and click a button. At Yahoo, you had to take a proposal to a committee led by a cofounder, and then be repeatedly shot down until you finally persevered. I personally I believe Hadoop took off at Yahoo because it was a way of getting computing resources that did not need to go throu…

To get access to the Hadoop cluster you also needed special permissions and to go through a committee. At Facebook, access was given to all technical and non-technical (after an afternoon of training) people.

Sure but you went through the committee once and then had as much computing resources as you needed. I don't remember it being hard and my whole team got access pretty early and quickly. Compared to the five servers we had to nurse for 2 years because that's all we'd get before then.

Re: Del.icio.us

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Post by dvtrn »

osmarks wrote: post #207
dvtrn wrote: post #173

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RSS feeds are still there And so heavily truncated, spoiling the point in many (but not all) cases of having an RSS feed entirely.

Some RSS reader applications can fetch/view the page each RSS entry points to if the actual entries don't have the right information.

Certainly true enough! I'm just saddened, I suppose-that such a feature needs to exist in the first place.

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Post by frogpelt »

glenstein wrote: post #54

Delicious was for a time at the cultural nerve center of the web, and I think had the potential to be something like a twitter or a reddit if stewarded correctly. I like to think there was an alternate reality where Yahoo didn't run itself into the ground, and took its properties: delicious, flickr, tumblr, its massive userbase across fantasy sports, groups, news, messenger, geocities and answers, its email service,…

So like the Western version of Tencent?

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Post by Tenoke »

binarysneaker wrote: post #206
jacek wrote: post #32

I absolutely loved del.icio.us back in the day and I would love to use it again. No other method of bookmarking/collecting sites worked for me as well as del.icio.us. And I have never found the right alternative.

I searched and searched for a replacement too. In the last year I found raindrop.io, and I'm really happy with it. (No affiliation)

I can recommend raindrop.io, too.

I tried pinboard but it wasn't very stable and full-text search didn't work for me on multiple sites (he was great about refunding me, though!). After that I researched all options I could find and raindop truly works just how I wanted on all my devices. The only time I had a minor issue with them was near the start and they fixed it in a few days.

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