Fewer premature babies born since Covid-19 lockdown

Post by mensetmanusman » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 5:44 PM UTC

dungdang wrote: post #179

mensetmanusman wrote: post #147

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I’m a father with a handful of children, and I don’t think it’s entirely unreasonable that in a fair society non-parents would make more than parents due to the extra time they would put towards their job. Tax rebates for children could help both parties think they are getting ahead to balance society’s needs.

tax rebates -aka a tax deduction for each child already exists. this passes the tax burden to people without kids, and is also unfair. rebates would also be unfair. a child is not a rebate. what i don't get is why a child is treated as a child for taxes. a tax return should be for the family -a joint return. you take wife+husband+kids. you add up all the salary. and you divide by number of tax payers. exactly how a j…

Post by klyrs » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 6:25 PM UTC

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I think spenczar5's reaction is fairly understandable in the context. Live in close quarters with somebody in their 7th month of pregnancy and 5th month of lockdown and we'll see if your goto reflex is to explain further. There's a need for a lot of sensitivity in this conversation. It's easy for us to armchair-expert this to death... that isn't necessarily a good thing.

I mean, "armchair quarterback" doesn't really apply to posing a hypothesis, does it?

Post by loco5niner » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 8:09 PM UTC

Viliam1234 wrote: post #150

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The pay during maternity leave is covered by the state. I am guessing this holds for all countries but I can only say for sure for my country. It is somewhat annoying for the employer to "lose" the employee for a year but there is ample notice (eight months or so :) ) so the employer can prepare for the absence.

Exactly, when the state pays the maternity leave, it doesn't create a disincentive for the employers. Should be obvious, but somehow is not. Even if you make laws like "the employer cannot ask about ...", well, they cannot ask, but they can still make a guess, right? (And then make up an excuse, because guessing is also illegal, of course.) Instead, if the maternity leave is paid by the state, the employer does not b…

Post by irrational » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 9:44 PM UTC

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So you are saying that the plot of patriarchy used to be to keep women out of the workspace, but now the plot is the opposite, to keep them out of the home? It sounds like the patriarchs need to get together and make up their minds.

Is it really impossible to imagine that things change? Or, less succinctly -- that there isn't an actual literal plot, there's just people reacting to incentives, and those incentives change?

Post by dang » Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 10:03 PM UTC

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> If the parents do not have the resources to give the child a stable and healthy upbringing ... they should use birth control or abort. > All of which you will have to pay for later via your taxes This is true only for crime, but it should still be cheaper per person compared to the alternatives. > Not to mention you seem a bit indifferent to the suffering of children I simply do not consider the suffering of childr…

> [School] should be left up to the parents to pay for So you would enjoy living in a society were the children of the poor enter adulthood illiterate and completely uneducated, without the basic life skills necessary in a modern society. I think our worldviews are simply too different for us to come to an understanding here. All I can say is that you present yourself as a very unsympathetic person.