Thank you! I needed this so much!
Honestly can’t believe this is not default behavior in macOS.
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#82Why this was this change ever touted as "innovative"?
Because the Moore’s law has petered out and software bloat reached unimaginable levels and is incomprehensible to its authors thus we are getting “innovations” of this sort.
Hey, did you see the new animated emoji pack the new version is shipping with? Really should check it out!
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#83I’m a happy user of ControlPlane since many years for exactly this purpose.
> With ControlPlane you can intelligently reconfigure your Mac or perform any number of actions based on input from a wide variety of evidence sources […]
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#84As someone who prefers Natural Scroll (and who understands that there are people who don't), why would someone want Natural Scroll on one interaction method and not on another? That feels like confusion waiting to happen, IMHO.
For me, it’s because my muscle memory for a mouse (which I use primarily on my work Windows computer, occasionally on my Mac laptop) is different than a trackpad (which I only use with my Mac laptop). Unfortunately, macOS doesn’t let you set different options for each.
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#85Since HN users tend to be more traditional in how they expect their computers to act, I wonder, how many people turn off "natural" scrolling the second they get a new Mac? I never understood why it was there. It makes a ton of sense for content to scroll in the direction your finger moves when your finger is touching the content , but I fail to understand why you'd expect it to move that way when using a touchpad or…
I agree. I find "natural" to be very unnatural, and it seems to be everywhere now. It drives me nuts when I help my wife with something on her laptop. When/how did this become the norm, because it seems like it was not at one time? I suppose most computer users don't consider settings at all and just go with whatever the default is and eventually get comfortable using that, not knowing it's not "normal". But who made…
It was Apple who decided down was up one day. Nowadays on Windows with Synaptics trackpads, we have the same problem (well for me it is, as you say, you prefer it).
It made sense because it relates to PgUp/PgDn or to consider that you're pulling the scrollbar indicator down. (oh, what's that, this UI element is hidden nowadays..?).
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#86The difference in scrolling is quite jarring when first using MacOS after being familiar with other environments. I imagine many people googling how to fix it, only to find Apple called their way "natural scrolling" just to add insult to injury.
[Don't you people have better things to downvote?]
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#87God bless you. This has filled me with rage since lockdown. Can’t wait to try it tomorrow.
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#88"Moving the camera" vs "Dragging the document"
Many years ago, when I was teachin my mother how to use the computer, I noticed something that I recalled the day Apple introduced the "Natural" Scroll thing.
She was working on a Word document, so I told her that she didn't need to click the scroll bar, but to scroll directly using the mouse wheel. To my surprise, she moved the wheel in the "wrong" direction. And for some seconds she was wondering why the whole thing was "inverted". In that moment I thought that probably we were all taught "incorrectly", and maybe, just maybe, "intuitively" people will think about scrolling on the opposite way, but we ended up learning that it was not correct, adapting our minds to the already established behavior of the mouse wheel.
The truth is. I embraced with happiness the "Natural" scrolling from Apple with the touchpad and the magic mouse on macOS, but also had a hard time getting used to this behavior with a regular mouse. I've been struggling since then, and I still use the "classic" scrolling with my Windows-based PC.
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#89Thank you for the app!
I've created PR for brew cask, as I wanted to be able to add it to my dotfiles.
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#90Disabling acceleration is a big feature here, again something that makes sense on a trackpad but does not on a scroll wheel. It's infuriating switching between Linux/Windows/macOS _with the same mouse_ and only macOS has acceleration. Logitech Options doesn't even give acceleration Also along these lines of bizarre defaults, I don't remember how but I had to change key press settings to allow for repeated presses. Ap…
Speaking of infuriating trackpad issues on macOS: Have you solved the three button problem on Linux/BSD over VNC on MacOS? I had it working on Ubuntu 14 & 16 and FreeBSD 11.3, but now it is busted on 18 and 20. So annoying.
I'm not familiar with that problem as I don't use VNC sorry :(
I would like to get VNC working but haven't done the research post wayland.