MI6 tried to intervene independent court by stopping judge seeing legal papers
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Re: MI6 tried to intervene independent court by stopping judge seeing legal papers
#2MI6 asked the court service to not give certain papers to the judge. The court service said “no”, and promptly informed an MI6 oversight body.
It’s not great that they asked, but the system does appear to have worked as it should.
Or am I missing something?
Re: MI6 tried to intervene independent court by stopping judge seeing legal papers
#3MI6 asked the court service to not give certain papers to the judge. The court service said “no”, and promptly informed an MI6 oversight body. It’s not great that they asked, but the system does appear to have worked as it should. Or am I missing something?
The article initially makes it sound like they broke into the judge's house and stole if from their desk after feeding their dog poisoned liver.
Reality sounds more like they made a procedural request (possibly not a correct one) which was denied and they apologised.
Re: MI6 tried to intervene independent court by stopping judge seeing legal papers
#4MI6 asked the court service to not give certain papers to the judge. The court service said “no”, and promptly informed an MI6 oversight body. It’s not great that they asked, but the system does appear to have worked as it should. Or am I missing something?
From my reading it seems they did not have the prerogatives or rights to ask this, it was an illegal demands but the apology was enough.
Re: MI6 tried to intervene independent court by stopping judge seeing legal papers
#5The scary consequences of overbearing "Classified" status assigned to information that human beings are embarrassed by is likely the single biggest omission to the public record thus denying the public the ability to form political opinions fairly.
Re: MI6 tried to intervene independent court by stopping judge seeing legal papers
#6The scary consequences of overbearing "Classified" status assigned to information that human beings are embarrassed by is likely the single biggest omission to the public record thus denying the public the ability to form political opinions fairly.
Well said. It's scary how many thing that get classified that shouldn't be.
Re: MI6 tried to intervene independent court by stopping judge seeing legal papers
#7MI6 asked the court service to not give certain papers to the judge. The court service said “no”, and promptly informed an MI6 oversight body. It’s not great that they asked, but the system does appear to have worked as it should. Or am I missing something?
From my reading it seems they did not have the prerogatives or rights to ask this, it was an illegal demands but the apology was enough.
Yes, it sounds like this was inappropriate but possibly not illegal. Normally the strongest sanction the judge could take here would be to find them in contempt of court, but he let them off with a warning/admonishment which also seems fine.
> IPT secretary Susan Cobb wrote back to say: "It was inappropriate for your staff to seek to intervene in ongoing legal proceedings..."
> Lord Justice Singh told the room: "The tribunal's secretary acted entirely appropriately in responding the way she did and by drawing these matters to my attention. In March 2019, it was recognised that the direct communication was inappropriate."
Re: MI6 tried to intervene independent court by stopping judge seeing legal papers
#8MI6 asked the court service to not give certain papers to the judge. The court service said “no”, and promptly informed an MI6 oversight body. It’s not great that they asked, but the system does appear to have worked as it should. Or am I missing something?
From my reading it seems they did not have the prerogatives or rights to ask this, it was an illegal demands but the apology was enough.
There was nothing illegal about their request. They shouldn't have done it, but they didn't break any laws in doing so.
Re: MI6 tried to intervene independent court by stopping judge seeing legal papers
#9Disappointed but not surprised. See also: Matrix-Churchill.
Re: MI6 tried to intervene independent court by stopping judge seeing legal papers
#10Parody court agrees with parody inspector on parody rules.
Very real threat temporarily averted. Next time it will be conducted more subtly but no less mistakably, so the parody court won't hear about it or what it was meant to cover up, and all will be well.