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Yale Professor of Epidemiology claims HCQ "key to defeating COVID-19"

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Re: Yale Professor of Epidemiology claims HCQ "key to defeating COVID-19"

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I suggest changing the title to something like: Yale professor of epidemiology claims hydroxychloroquine "key to defeating COVID-19"

Done. I usually try to avoid editorializing titles after repeated scoldings but I think this is appropriate.

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I suggest changing the title to something like: Yale professor of epidemiology claims hydroxychloroquine "key to defeating COVID-19"

Isn't it something more like:

I am referring, of course, to the medication hydroxychloroquine. When this inexpensive oral medication is given very early in the course of illness, before the virus has had time to multiply beyond control, it has shown to be highly effective, especially when given in combination with the antibiotics azithromycin or doxycycline and the nutritional supplement zinc.

Re: Yale Professor of Epidemiology claims HCQ "key to defeating COVID-19"

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Hydroxychloroquine is only controversial because Trump championed it. Otherwise it would be a detail of interest only to doctors treating COVID and researchers evaluating the success of these treatments.

Political hyper-polarization and social media amplification of divisive content to drive "engagement" is making us all collectively lose our damn minds.

If Trump says the sky is blue, his followers mindlessly believe it and everyone else will mindlessly decide the sky must instead be green. If Trump says the sky is green, his followers will mindlessly believe it and everyone else will mindlessly revert to thinking the sky is blue. The effect of a personality like Trump and how people react to him is quite possibly worse than Trump himself.

Either HCQ works or it doesn't. Deciding that and deciding how best to use it if it does work is a job for scientists and doctors. If you are not a scientist, doctor, or otherwise guided by real data that you are qualified to evaluate, your opinion on this issue is not valid and you need to shut up. What Trump or some other media whoring ass clown does or does not believe is irrelevant and will probably change next week anyway. Neither Trump nor his detractors have a valid opinion on this issue (unless they are actual professionals).

/rant over

Re: Yale Professor of Epidemiology claims HCQ "key to defeating COVID-19"

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Hydroxychloroquine is only controversial because Trump championed it. Otherwise it would be a detail of interest only to doctors treating COVID and researchers evaluating the success of these treatments. Political hyper-polarization and social media amplification of divisive content to drive "engagement" is making us all collectively lose our damn minds. If Trump says the sky is blue, his followers mindlessly believe…

I disagree. I think the anti-Trump crowd would've happily been on board with HCQ if Trump had said it was helpful and then scientific studies then also concluded it was helpful and that was the end of it.

Instead, the FDA publicly retracted it's authorization for the use of HCQ and said it did more harm than good, and so public sentiment solidified behind the idea that it was stupid all along. If the FDA hadn't done that and the treatment continued to prove effective, I think we would all generally be on board with it.

There are a lot of ways in which it turns out anti-Trumpers are exactly the same as Trump supporters, but the anti-science bent isn't one of them.

Re: Yale Professor of Epidemiology claims HCQ "key to defeating COVID-19"

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Hydroxychloroquine is only controversial because Trump championed it. Otherwise it would be a detail of interest only to doctors treating COVID and researchers evaluating the success of these treatments. Political hyper-polarization and social media amplification of divisive content to drive "engagement" is making us all collectively lose our damn minds. If Trump says the sky is blue, his followers mindlessly believe…

Trump-haters supported the retraction of the bogus study showing HCQ increased death rates.

Outside of that, the science has been pretty mixed. There are no gold-standard studies proving effectiveness yet. The Trump-haters are correct to be ambivalent about HCQ.

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Hydroxychloroquine is only controversial because Trump championed it. Otherwise it would be a detail of interest only to doctors treating COVID and researchers evaluating the success of these treatments. Political hyper-polarization and social media amplification of divisive content to drive "engagement" is making us all collectively lose our damn minds. If Trump says the sky is blue, his followers mindlessly believe…

I disagree. I think the anti-Trump crowd would've happily been on board with HCQ if Trump had said it was helpful and then scientific studies then also concluded it was helpful and that was the end of it. Instead, the FDA publicly retracted it's authorization for the use of HCQ and said it did more harm than good, and so public sentiment solidified behind the idea that it was stupid all along. If the FDA hadn't done…

The treatment is continuing to prove effective when administered in the correct dosages at the appropriate times and in conjunction with Zinc and Azithromycin.

Unfortunately a lot of people were biased against it precisely because Trump supported it. The studies showing it didn't work or was dangerous were poorly designed but people happily accepted their results because they made Trump look like a fool.

It's time we put politics aside and reverse course on HCQ.

Re: Yale Professor of Epidemiology claims HCQ "key to defeating COVID-19"

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Does anyone know if there any reasonably effective medications, yet (with sources)? Plasma therapy is the only majorly effective therapy I am aware of, at present. Would be interesting to read more on any promising treatments (aside from the Oxford vaccine success story).
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