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Fewer premature babies born since Covid-19 lockdown

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Re: Fewer premature babies born since Covid-19 lockdown

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That's straight-up cyberpunk horror territory. What the actual fuck

Could many of those C-sections be at the request of the mother? I know quite a few professional women who have scheduled C-sections (or just induced births) so they can "manage" the delivery better. Seems crazy to me, but not my body, child, or career.

That also seems horrifying & cyperpunk to me but I doubt a significant chunk of women choose it, let alone independently.

Re: Fewer premature babies born since Covid-19 lockdown

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c-sections are money makers, we left our hospital in Boston when we found they had a 50% c-section rate, ha

That's straight-up cyberpunk horror territory. What the actual fuck

It could be a ward that specializes in handling risky pregnancies, so a desired result.

Re: Fewer premature babies born since Covid-19 lockdown

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Let's not ignore the possibility that the reduction in pre-term birth could be due to women receiving less pre-natal screening, leading to conditions that would warrant immediate induction going undetected. In fact, data collected from a hospital in the UK indicates a 4X increase in the incidence of stillbirth. From: https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/934056 edit: Non-paywalled: https://outline.com/MZUPk3 > The inc…

Interesting, is the data there to show COVID infections of stillbirth? Can that account for at least some of them to offset?

Considering only 0.4% of the UK population has gotten covid ( 300,000 cases / 68,000,000 population) I would say it's incredibly tenuous to blame the 400% stillbirths increase on covid infections.

Re: Fewer premature babies born since Covid-19 lockdown

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Heart attacks are similarly down 40-60%. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/well/live/coronavirus-doc... And cancer diagnoses are down by half. https://youtu.be/TWF8KLKy-I0 Of course, no, they aren’t down, it’s just that people that absolutely should be going to the hospital aren’t and they’re endangering their lives trying to avoid COVID-19. Could something similar be at play here? I laughed out loud when they sugge…

I think what you're saying has merit.

No data from me, only a personal anecdote.

I avoided the ER during a severe illness comprising intense bloating, severe pain, and constant vomiting for about five days roughly a month ago.

I ended up in the hospital for about eight days and was discharged just over a week ago. Turns out I'd suffered a severe acute necrotizing pancreatitis attack and just "battled through" with gatorade, water (when I could keep fluids down) and sleep. I even worked from home in between falling over on the couch!

I just really didn't want to visit the hospital. Figured it was a bad stomach bug or bad take out.

No—it turns out I was lucky to avoid the ICU and am going to be dealing with it for the next 6-12 months, if not permanently. I lost about 30 lbs in a couple of weeks because I couldn't really eat.

Even now I'm doing what I can to prevent a premature return to the hospital outside of appointments. The intake procedure is slower and requires more attention than normal from people suffering and in pain.

It's quite stressful. And this is in Canada where I didn't have to worry about a single hospital bill after multiple CT scans, ultrasounds, XRays, medications, regular blood work and blood cultures, and a semi-private hospital bed.

Outside of the stress of health issues, the worst thing I've had to endure is my employer asking me to have an insurance form filled out by my attending doctor in case I have to be re-admitted. It's difficult organizing having forms filled out when most appointments are held over the phone presently.

I can't imagine the burden of trying to navigate grants and massive bills on top of it all.

Re: Fewer premature babies born since Covid-19 lockdown

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I have some anecdotal experience here which is not in the same trend.

Our baby was born 10 weeks premature on the 4 June, although her being premature seemed to be entirely unrelated to COVID-19. I'm happy to say they've been doing super well and we expect them to come home this week.

Although not related to prematureness, of interest in regards to pregnancy and COVID-19 was that the gynaecologist mentioned during pregnancy that they had anecdotally noticed that during our lockdown here babies in utero were on average noticeably bigger than usual. They supposed that it might be related to moms on average being more relaxed due to not needing to do things like stressful work commutes.

Our baby was quite a bit bigger than average for their maturity which was quite fortunate given how early they arrived.

Re: Fewer premature babies born since Covid-19 lockdown

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So, effectively, women are just too stupid to have abortions or to sell their babies for a good price directly after giving birth? I might have misunderstood you, but what you said sounds like women actually had a choice. The only choices they have are those frowned upon by a large part of society.

> women are just too stupid to have abortions or to sell their babies for a good price directly after giving birth? ...what? Not sure what this has to do with stupidity. > but what you said sounds like women actually had a choice They do. They can use protection, abort, or simply stay without a wage during the time of pregnancy. Or... they could accept the maternity leave as a gift if their employer decides to provid…

* birth control women can apply comes with sometimes severe side effects (edit: and even for that my wife needs my consent here in the Maghreb)

* Having an abortion just got a lot harder in parts of the US, is even more limited in most parts of south america, requires consent of a male guardian in lots of islamic countries or is just illegal

* Staying without wage is not an option when you need to feed yourself and the unborn

I still fail to see where the actual choices are.

Re: Fewer premature babies born since Covid-19 lockdown

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Heart attacks are similarly down 40-60%. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/well/live/coronavirus-doc... And cancer diagnoses are down by half. https://youtu.be/TWF8KLKy-I0 Of course, no, they aren’t down, it’s just that people that absolutely should be going to the hospital aren’t and they’re endangering their lives trying to avoid COVID-19. Could something similar be at play here? I laughed out loud when they sugge…

>I laughed out loud when they suggested that this is a “low stress” time to be pregnant. All indicators show the opposite.

For most people it isn't, but for some people it is. If you are financially secure, then staying at home with no obligations could very well be relaxing.

I thoroughly enjoyed the lockdown until about a month ago, when I started getting tired of it. I spent every day out in the woods reading.

Re: Fewer premature babies born since Covid-19 lockdown

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That's straight-up cyberpunk horror territory. What the actual fuck

Could many of those C-sections be at the request of the mother? I know quite a few professional women who have scheduled C-sections (or just induced births) so they can "manage" the delivery better. Seems crazy to me, but not my body, child, or career.

Based on time-of-day data, it seems the scheduling is more likely to convenience the doctors.
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