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The Electric Car Atop Europe’s Sales Charts Isn’t a Tesla or VW

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Re: The Electric Car Atop Europe’s Sales Charts Isn’t a Tesla or VW

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In the UK a Renault Zoe is about 30% cheaper than a Tesla Model 3 and is smaller and more urban. I.e. more in line with most cars you see everywhere in Europe.

It is also possible to lease the battery instead of buying it along with the car, which seems to be a popular option (although it seems they've removed the option, apparently).

Re: The Electric Car Atop Europe’s Sales Charts Isn’t a Tesla or VW

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Not surprised - the Zoe is just a nice little everyday car ... not trying to be too much, just get the basics right of what a nomal driver needs.

I'm in the market for an EV next year and, if the competitors haven't stepped up their game, I'll get one.

No way will I buy a Tesla. Extremely bored of their brand and their online cult - very excited for alternatives. You can take your 0-60 and ... :)

Re: The Electric Car Atop Europe’s Sales Charts Isn’t a Tesla or VW

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In the UK a Renault Zoe is about 30% cheaper than a Tesla Model 3 and is smaller and more urban. I.e. more in line with most cars you see everywhere in Europe. It is also possible to lease the battery instead of buying it along with the car, which seems to be a popular option (although it seems they've removed the option, apparently).

The battery lease is what put me off, when I looked there didn't seem to be an option to buy it outright.

Re: The Electric Car Atop Europe’s Sales Charts Isn’t a Tesla or VW

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Tesla Europe numbers are wildly variable. Tesla tends to build their European cars at the beginnning of the quarter so that they can be shipped across the ocean and into customer hands before the end of the quarter. The cars at the end of the quarter are shipped to Americans and the cars built in the last week are shipped to Californians.

So because of the COVID shutdown, that means that the only month that Tesla made cars for Europe this year was January. (And July, but those cars haven't been counted yet).

And, as mentioned the widely anticipated ID3 from VW isn't being delivered until September.

So Europeans chose to buy a Zoe now rather than wait for a Tesla or an ID3. And the Zoe is a nice car, so why wait?

Re: The Electric Car Atop Europe’s Sales Charts Isn’t a Tesla or VW

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In the UK a Renault Zoe is about 30% cheaper than a Tesla Model 3 and is smaller and more urban. I.e. more in line with most cars you see everywhere in Europe. It is also possible to lease the battery instead of buying it along with the car, which seems to be a popular option (although it seems they've removed the option, apparently).

The battery lease is what put me off, when I looked there didn't seem to be an option to buy it outright.

That's old. I think since late 2019 you buy the car and battery outright.

Good move. Who needs the complication of a battery lease

Re: The Electric Car Atop Europe’s Sales Charts Isn’t a Tesla or VW

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The new 52kwh Zoe is pretty good, £25k for 200+ mile range.

Probably the cheapest 200+ mile EV in Europe right now.

The Tesla Model 3 is comparatively expensive due to importing. Cheapest Model 3 on the website is £40k. We're not even getting the Model Y until they build the german factory.

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