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Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Post by thih9 »

wcerfgba wrote: post #28
donohoe wrote: post #20

If you use FB's url debugger it gives the message: "We can't review this website because the content doesn't meet our Community Standards. If you think this is a mistake, please let us know" So an unhelpful; start but a start to understanding what may have happened. Link: https://developers.facebook.com/tools/debug/?q=https%3A%2F%2... My guess is that FB should have blocked a sub-domain but instead blocked a whole do…

Of course you need a Facebook account to use the Sharing Debugger. As if I needed /another/ reason to hate this website. D:

I believe that this kind of unfriendly UX helps companies like Facebook only in the short term. Long term these minor annoyances add up and people eventually go to a different platform.

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Post by seesawtron »

andybak wrote: post #12
bzb3 wrote: post #11

Dreamwidth contains lots of spammy blogs.

So does the internet in general. It's still poor form to block entire platforms without warning.

Recently Indian government blocked Tik-Tok. Does anyone know if they gave a warning to the users or the app developers?

One can argue that governments should have the right to censorship when its a matter of urgency or emergency or national security (though this is debatable), does the same power lie with Facebook (or any other platform) to exercise a censorship on its users? It goes back to the big debate whether they are accountable for what gets shared on their platform.

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Post by leereeves »

goatinaboat wrote: post #35
seesawtron wrote: post #29

In the past there was a news about Paypal banning Dreamwidth. Not sure if its related: "About six months after opening, PayPal -- our payment processor at the time -- demanded that we censor some of our users' content (mostly involving people talking about sex, usually fictionally, in explicit terms) that was legal and protected speech but that they felt violated their terms for using PayPal." HN discussion on it: ht…

demanded that we censor some of our users' content (mostly involving people talking about sex, usually fictionally, in explicit terms Livejournal was a hotbed of dubious fanfic (shall we say) in which one or more characters was underage. Maybe such a thing is technically not illegal but even so, many left that platform once it started to develop a reputation for it. Then it went bust and was sold to a Russian company…

> Dreamwidth [is] what's known as a "code fork" of LiveJournal: the software that runs LiveJournal was free and open source software, licensed under the GNU GPL, which meant anyone could copy it and improve it.

Sounds like Dreamwidth is an entirely different site from Livejournal, it just uses the same open source code. How does dubious fanfic on Livejournal relate to the banning of Dreamwidth?

If that fanfic migrated to Dreamwidth, why not just say there was dubious fanfic on Dreamwidth?

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Post by Jaruzel »

easton wrote: post #26
rowanG077 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lack of an app is something for it. Literally every app of some website has the worse experience. Even worse the website will keep begging you to install their shitty app.

I'd say Apollo (or Reddit is Fun on Android) is a heck of a lot better than new Reddit, and about as good as old Reddit. And Google Maps' app beats their site by a county mile on iOS. There's no good Hacker News client for mobile though, at least one that's better than the web page. Not that I'm saying someone should make one either, the site is responsive as heck.

I use:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manuelmaly...

as my Hacker News app, it does me. I like that I can vote on comments and stories, but it's irritating that I can't post via it. On a medium sized phone screen, the mobile web experience of HN is not optimum in my opinion.

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Post by AndrewDucker »

strogonoff wrote: post #39
AndrewDucker wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it's an actually good blogging site. Main thing it has against it is the lack of an app. (And that Facebook has just blocked it)

How do you imagine content discovery in an app for an open-source blogging platform (self-hosted instances) could work?

It's not self-hosted.

(You can download the source and host it yourself if you like though. But Dreamwidth itself is hosted at Dreamwidth.org)

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Post by raverbashing »

easton wrote: post #26
rowanG077 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lack of an app is something for it. Literally every app of some website has the worse experience. Even worse the website will keep begging you to install their shitty app.

I'd say Apollo (or Reddit is Fun on Android) is a heck of a lot better than new Reddit, and about as good as old Reddit. And Google Maps' app beats their site by a county mile on iOS. There's no good Hacker News client for mobile though, at least one that's better than the web page. Not that I'm saying someone should make one either, the site is responsive as heck.

HN works fine on mobile

I think the only improvement needed might be a different style on "code" blocks, but otherwise it works great

There's literally no need for an app

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Post by Pxtl »

AndrewDucker wrote: post #5
geoah wrote: post #4

Interesting place, never heard of it before. > Dreamwidth Studios is an Open Source social networking, content management, and personal publishing platform. Our mission in life is to make it easy for you to share the things you make, and easy to find the people who are making the things you want to enjoy. > We have all the features you've come to love in social networking sites, including privacy and security feature…

Yeah, it's an actually good blogging site. Main thing it has against it is the lack of an app. (And that Facebook has just blocked it)

Relevant xkcd:

https://xkcd.com/1174/

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Post by scarface74 »

seesawtron wrote: post #29

In the past there was a news about Paypal banning Dreamwidth. Not sure if its related: "About six months after opening, PayPal -- our payment processor at the time -- demanded that we censor some of our users' content (mostly involving people talking about sex, usually fictionally, in explicit terms) that was legal and protected speech but that they felt violated their terms for using PayPal." HN discussion on it: ht…

“Protected Speech” means that the government can’t censor it, not private corporations.

Re: Facebook has blocked Dreamwidth

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Post by bzb3 »

annadane wrote: post #47
bzb3 wrote: post #11

Dreamwidth contains lots of spammy blogs.

You think this is a justification to do this? On Hacker News? Really? I do not understand the mindset of some people

I didn't say it was a good reason, I'm saying that's probably the cause they got banned.
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